Is your Starbucks closing?

[Chewyeti]

YESSS!!!

2 0f the Corona ones are going down! LOL
and one is brand new in the Dos Lagos mall... which is tanking huge!

[Knuckledragger]

Stoked! Good to know that the Crown Town still has a ounce on balls left....

Cheers,

C.K.

[nintense]

Not just for less options for reasonable coffee on the road, also for probably around 4000 new unemployed people.
Regarding the coffee quality, I have a Saeco Espresso machines at home and at the shop, so I make myself the best coffee on the planet. for on the go, Peet's is my choice.

[soul rider]

Starbucks close and gas goes down ?
good now you have gas money (LMFAO in the annoying style of Dr.Evil)

[ubermensch]

For those that prefer to make his or her own brew, you are missing out if you haven't tried the beans from Coffee Klatch.

klatchroasting.com

My brother and I switched to their beans after having consistency issues with the beans from Starbucks and, later on, Coffee Bean. The first time that I had a shot that was pulled from using the Klatch beans I was blown away. There was so much chocolate flavor that it was hard to believe that the flavor came naturally from the beans. Sometimes it's almost like drinking hot chocolate, and the only other ingredients in our drinks besides the shot of espresso is milk and a few teaspoons of sugar.

To be fair, we have tried some expensive mail order beans, and some of them were good as well, but we still prefer the stuff from Klatch. Plus they have a bunch of legitimate championship winning stuff (even though I prefer the normal house blend).

[cbHarping]

The state of Washington has got it right - free coffee at rest stops for travelers!

[kbteachme]

Why go to Starbucks when you can get a better tasting coffee at Mc Donalds. Their iced coffee is not bad, too.

[SheDevil]

Talking to someone who was a bigger manager with StarSucks...not only was their quality in the toilet...but their caffeine levels were seriously low. The most caffeine in the store was in the regular drip coffee (and it was at 3/4 that of a normal cup) Part of their scheme was addiction and quantity based...which for a caffeine person (I need my one cup a day), use to really piss me off when I couldn't figure out why I always had a headache after their drinks. Crap coffee and high calorie junk going away? Too bad...so sad... (pardon my rant)

[dirtmistress]

Originally Posted by SheDevil

Talking to someone who was a bigger manager with StarSucks...not only was their quality in the toilet...but their caffeine levels were seriously low. The most caffeine in the store was in the regular drip coffee (and it was at 3/4 that of a normal cup) Part of their scheme was addiction and quantity based...which for a caffeine person (I need my one cup a day), use to really piss me off when I couldn't figure out why I always had a headache after their drinks. Crap coffee and high calorie junk going away? Too bad...so sad... (pardon my rant)

What SheDevil said here really stuck with me.
I have been drinking Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf the last couple days just for a change and that coffee made me jittery and amped! Good! I haven't gotten that sensation from Starbucks in awhile.
Anyway, maybe this article is outdated but it sounds like an independent testing lab disputes this less caffeine claim. Maybe I just got accustomed to the amount of caffeine in a cup of Pikes blend. ORRR..maybe Coffee Bean & blablabla put even MORE caffeine in their coffee to keep people coming back to them.
It makes sense to jack up caffeine to keep them coming back, not taking it out.
Either way, today in the mail I recieved a coupon for a FREE drink of my choice from Starbucks thanking me for using a registered card weekly. I wonder though, if perhaps they watched me wander into the competition the last couple days and quickly mailed this off to get me back.

Starbucks vs. Its AddictsThe coffee chain bets you'll pay even more for your caffeine fix.

By Daniel Gross
Posted Tuesday, Oct. 5, 2004, at 5:47 PM ET For many Americans—at least those of us addicted to the national drugs of petroleum, nicotine, and caffeine—life is increasingly unaffordable. Crude oil topped $50 per barrel. Cigarettes have become more expensive in many states thanks to new taxes. And this week, faced with sharp increases in the costs of sugar and coffee, Starbucks announced it would boost the price of its already-pricey espressos and macchiatos by an average of 11 cents.
The interaction of inflation and addiction makes for fascinating economic case studies. In New York City, where state and city tax hikes in 2002 pushed the price of cigarettes up to $7.50 a pack, the number of smokers dropped 11 percent from 2002 to 2003, "the fastest drop in smoking rates ever recorded nationally," according to the city.
But Starbucks may be luckier than the cigarette makers. It is in the happy position of marketing coffee, a substance that, unlike gasoline, is physically addictive, and that, unlike tobacco, governments don't want to regulate.



For Starbucks to publicly announce its price increase is either an act of hubris or supreme confidence. Some people come to Starbucks for the bonhomie, others for the soothing music, still others for the wi-fi access. But pretty much all come for the liquid caffeine. And when a retailer loudly raises the price of its main product, it runs the risk of pricing some consumers out.
What's more, Starbucks already has a reputation for having the most expensive coffee in the marketplace. When I left Moneybox's New York headquarters to conduct research at the closest Starbucks (a block away), I passed a half-dozen other coffee vendors. There's the guy with the cart who sells the little Greek diner cups for 50 cents; the deli with the scalding 75-cent generic joe and the thin paper cup; the convenience store with $1.00 faux gourmet stuff; and Cosi, where a latte costs $3.59. Only after running this gantlet could I enter Starbucks, where a java chip Frappuccino runs $4.75.
Starbucks must be banking on the theory that the people who buy its coffee don't just need coffee, they need Starbucks coffee, which packs a higher caffeine punch than many competitors. The Wall Street Journal earlier this year sent samples of coffee from Starbucks, 7-Eleven, and Dunkin' Donuts to Central Analytical Laboratories. The lab reported that a 16-ounce Starbucks house blend coffee contained 223 milligrams of caffeine, compared with 174 and 141 milligrams in comparable amounts of Dunkin' Donuts and 7-Eleven coffee, respectively. According to the Journal, the average Starbucks coffee drink contains 320 milligrams of caffeine. (This chart from the Center for Science in the Public Interest shows different measurement levels, including the scary finding that a 16-ounce Starbucks grande has nearly three times as much caffeine as a No-Doz.)
In fact, it could be that many of Starbucks' customers—I see them, lining up in the morning, clutching the brew like a security blanket—literally need the stuff to get through the day. A recent survey of scientific literature by psychiatrists Roland Griffiths of Johns Hopkins and Laura Juliano of American University found that people who have a one-cup-a-day habit can become addicted. It's not so much the buzz—pleasant as it is—that keeps people coming back for more: It's the symptoms of withdrawal. In other words, Starbucks may not have to fret about the impact of raising prices because a goodly portion of its customer base may begin to feel sick without its products. Talk about a great business plan!
Of course, it could be that Starbucks consumers are motivated by rationality rather than impulse. If Starbucks delivers more caffeine per cup than its competitors, and if people buy coffee primarily because it is an efficient caffeine delivery, then Starbucks' high prices don't seem so high. You'd have to buy a lot more Coke, or coffee from the guy on the corner, to get the same rush you can get from a Starbucks. If one dose is enough to get you through the day, in other words, Starbucks' expensive brews could save you both time and money.

[slo65]

no coffee here

this is my poison

[Abstrakt77]

I am guilty of being an avid Starbucks fan as I am addicted to their drip coffee ($1.85 for a med), but I'm also guilty of being an addict to the Vietnamese iced coffee that they serve at the fine Vietnamese "coffee shops." If you've been, you would understand.