Cool "Info" on RIngneck snakes

[Rockinthecasbah]

I was crusing the web and found this guys site on ringneck snakes kind of cool if anyone is interested it seems like alot of people have been finding them lately
http://www.kingpinreptiles.com/venomous.htm

[mtnbikerfred]

You'd have to try pretty hard to get bitten and invenomnated by one. They eat really small prey, and a nominally docile.

Gopher snakes on the other hand, will "musk" you, bite (and chew), hiss, mock-rattle and chase you!!!

One of God's nastier little creatures if you ask me.

[Rockinthecasbah]

I would have been in the bushes for an albino gopher ..hell im in the bushes fr a regular one most of the time

[DirtymikeTDB]

Originally Posted by mechmann

on saturday out at vail i nearly ran over a bright red snake. i am pretty sure that i was able to bunny hop him and not hit him. it must have been an albino gopher. it was probably around 4 feet long. really startled me to see such brilliant coloring. no black or white stripes, either...

Sounds like a Red racer actually, dont Phuck with those, there not venomous, but damn they will bite the holy hell out of you , with very nasty jagged teeth.

[DirtymikeTDB]

There is one thing I want to point out about that article. King snakes are not immune to other snakes venom, they are just good at avoiding getting bitten. They do lose from time to time though, I have lost a couple when feeding them a rattlesnake before.

[Rockinthecasbah]

coachwhips (red racer) are awsome super intelligent and will bite the hell out of you, striped racers will also, I know a naturalist working for an OC school district that got the crap bit out of him by a coachwhip in front of a class of 4th graders

[DirtymikeTDB]

Originally Posted by mechmann

didn't know we had anything like that here. it was fast getting across the trail as i hopped over it! i have heard of the "Blue Racer" before but never seen one that i know of.

They are stupid fast, If you reach down to pick him up, he will probaly have bitten you about four times before you can pull your hand back.


Gimme a sec I will find a pic

[Rockinthecasbah]

I have seen kings get hit while trying to eat helleri and survive its all about the location of the bite as long as they miss the vital parts they are fine

theres all kinds of cool things like that ,black throat monitors are supposed to be immune to elapid's I dont know of any first hand experiences though

Originally Posted by DirtymikeTDB

There is one thing I want to point out about that article. King snakes are not immune to other snakes venom, they are just good at avoiding getting bitten. They do lose from time to time though, I have lost a couple when feeding them a rattlesnake before.

whip

[DirtymikeTDB]

Exactly, not immune, just good hunters.


Anyways pics of red racers, tried to find one of the teeth, no luck though












Another little note, you can just about reach down and pic up a ringneck, I have found a couple out in whitewater myself, there cool looking little critters, realized they were venomous long after ever handling them

[Rockinthecasbah]

whitewater....ack.. stupid chang is always out there
dont forget though if you pick up a ringneck you will end up super smelly

[DirtymikeTDB]

Originally Posted by Rockinthecasbah

whitewater....ack.. stupid chang is always out there
dont forget though if you pick up a ringneck you will end up super smelly

Yeap, shovelnose will musk you too!!!




Oh for those that dont know, Redracer= Western Coachwhip

[Rockinthecasbah]

so will, kings, glossies, longnose, lol Shovelnose are my favorite I want some tri's in AZ this year

[DirtymikeTDB]

Damnit, your making me want to go out to Verbania or whitewater and see what I can find. Been a long time since I been out there looking for Snakes, lots of different species out there. The Verbania area is awesome, I like it much more than whitewater, we used to go back and forth between the two. Last time I got myself about a four foot Cali kind that was about 1 3/4 around, big son of a gun!!! Got him bread with another and let him go

Originally Posted by mechmann

have heard of the "Blue Racer" before but never seen one that i know of.

Red and Blue racer are teh same, just different phase.

Just like the different phases of king snakes, or Rosy boa's!














Soooo ahhhh Ricky, we gonna go out looking for some slithery critters????

[PacMan]

I saw what I believe were Redracers/Coachwhips out at Simpson Park a few times. Those things were crazy fast.