Ok Here is my list of not to buy cars

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by Koke

Forbes slideshow of the 21 most expensive cars to repair (some surprises in there).

That one was a surprise. But then again 1st year vehicles in many cases have issues

[Fired Yo Momma]

The top ten cars on that list are for people that don't care about repair costs and MPGs. If your worried about repair costs on these cars you have no buisness buying them and overall you cannot afford it.

[northshore]

Originally Posted by Koke

Forbes slideshow of the 21 most expensive cars to repair (some surprises in there).

Wow.....I thought at the very least...Subaru would be on it.

[bobzrag]

here's an interesting related article...the jd powers article on quality of cars built http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080604/...ehicle_quality

Porsche, Honda, Toyota, General Motors and Ford leading

Jeep, MINI, Land Rover, GM's Saturn, and Suzuki at the bottom of the pack

[strobelite]

Originally Posted by bighit8

Yes the new ones have a lot of problems. The old Vw Rabbit diesels rocked.But let me ask a simple question(Old VW).Why would you put an air cooled motor in the back of a car????

please let me know if you come across one, i miss my 2 door and diesel pickup.

[freekengo]

Originally Posted by bighit8

Yes the new ones have a lot of problems. The old Vw Rabbit diesels rocked.But let me ask a simple question(Old VW).Why would you put an air cooled motor in the back of a car????

You've been around cars all your life and you don't know the "saying" for VW/Porsche?

You can't tell me you've never heard "VW/Porsche- horrible piece of engineering brilliantly excecuted"!

To tell you the truth it doesn't make any sense to me either. All I know is that it works!

[AKmoney]

Originally Posted by BobBurnes

Trash:

1. BMW. What a bunch of crap. I owned a 1994 540i and a 1998 525 and both required way too much attention. I replaced fuel pumps, self-leveling motors, drive-trains, brake lines, and the list goes on and on.

The problem is that when BMWs *aren't* in the shop, they are best driving cars, bar none! I *heart* my 335i! And one of the reasons I got it was the fact that I could get a folding rear seat so I could stuff my bike inside.

[bighit8]

Originally Posted by freekengo

You've been around cars all your life and you don't know the "saying" for VW/Porsche?

You can't tell me you've never heard "VW/Porsche- horrible piece of engineering brilliantly excecuted"!

To tell you the truth it doesn't make any sense to me either. All I know is that it works!

Yes I have heard of it.It really all comes down to simplicity and easy /cheap to repair.Reliability, well one could argue!

[mazda-monkey]

Originally Posted by rmesa1

Hybrids are a great car if you only plan on keeping it short term because of the higher repair cost. Also keep in mind with the extended warranty to check before you buy. Some extended warranty don,t extend the hybrid warranty. Toyota hybrid warranty is 10 year 150,000 most extended only go to 100,000 also look into what falls under the "hybrid" system. I had a prius last week that needed a transaxle toyota did not cover it because the electric motor in the transaxle went bad and electric motor are only covered under the 3 year 36,000 bumper to bumper warranty. So do your homework when it comes to hybrids.

You need to keep a hybrid for a longer time to get the savings in fuel consumption to the point of break even.

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by mazda-monkey

You need to keep a hybrid for a longer time to get the savings in fuel consumption to the point of break even.

if you do the math it is cheaper to buy a Civic (non hybrid) or something simmilar

[BFloFoxRider.]

So while on the car discussion, what would one reccomend for a first truck? i was thinking a tacoma or a ranger
I found some can be picked up for around 5-6k with 90 ish thousand miles..
i know its alot... But i would have to buy it myself... I know im anticipating it, heck, ive yet to get my permit..
Im working on it though im signed up for the class i just have to put in my 30 hours

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by BFloFoxRider.

So while on the car discussion, what would one reccomend for a first truck? i was thinking a tacoma or a ranger
I found some can be picked up for around 5-6k with 90 ish thousand miles..
i know its alot... But i would have to buy it myself... I know im anticipating it, heck, ive yet to get my permit..
Im working on it though im signed up for the class i just have to put in my 30 hours

I have owned two Nissan trucks in the past (80's and 90's). why they are not more popular. My trucks were flawless.....never one issue and ran..ran.....ran

[BFloFoxRider.]

Originally Posted by DeeZee

I have owned two Nissan trucks in the past (80's and 90's). why they are not more popular. My trucks were flawless.....never one issue and ran..ran.....ran

Not to be totally stereotypical (my last name is Flores), but the older nissan trucks, especially the small one similar to a ranger, strikes me as a gardner's truck where one would cram 3 guys into the tiny front seat

ill look into them though thanks

Edit: Does anyone know what the average interest rate on a loan would be? I would need my father to Co-Sign, but the rates should be the same? Also, anyone have an approximate figure on registration, vehicle fee's, Etc? Any help is much appreciated.

[uno-speedo]

I always had the impression that Land Rover did a good job. Take a look at the consumer reports on Edmunds. Maybe I'm missing something

[Evil Chocula]

Originally Posted by BFloFoxRider.

Not to be totally stereotypical (my last name is Flores), but the older nissan trucks, especially the small one similar to a ranger, strikes me as a gardner's truck where one would cram 3 guys into the tiny front seat

ill look into them though thanks

Edit: Does anyone know what the average interest rate on a loan would be? I would need my father to Co-Sign, but the rates should be the same? Also, anyone have an approximate figure on registration, vehicle fee's, Etc? Any help is much appreciated.

Typically, the best rate you can get on a used car is 6%. So, I'd view that as your starting point.

[BFloFoxRider.]

Originally Posted by Evil Chocula

Typically, the best rate you can get on a used car is 6%. So, I'd view that as your starting point.

lol, just as you posted this, my dad called and said arounjd 7-9% if he co-signed with me..
Nice, so for a first car, with a 36 month loan at 9%, i would be making 159$ payments every month.... Not too bad i guess

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by uno-speedo

I always had the impression that Land Rover did a good job. Take a look at the consumer reports on Edmunds. Maybe I'm missing something

I always had the impression that Land Rover did a good job

I thought we went over this

[Evil Chocula]

Originally Posted by BFloFoxRider.

lol, just as you posted this, my dad called and said arounjd 7-9% if he co-signed with me..
Nice, so for a first car, with a 36 month loan at 9%, i would be making 159$ payments every month.... Not too bad i guess

Have him call around, you might be able to do better. 1-2% adds up over a 36 month period.

[BFloFoxRider.]

Originally Posted by Evil Chocula

Have him call around, you might be able to do better. 1-2% adds up over a 36 month period.

Will do..
Im just trying to Justify if its worth buying a truck thats a good deal, but one month or so before i get my permit, or if i should wait until i get my actual license
im thinking wait, but my big thing is what if i cant find another deal