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Old 05-30-2008, 09:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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You're right. He should've used the human trait of reasoning and realized this was a domestic housecat and moved onto other prey. Stupid animal.

Okay relax....
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:38 AM   #22 (permalink)
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The cats kill mice/birds/lizards...the coyotes kill the cats. Howcome nobody is sad about the stuff the cat killed?!

As I'm typing this, our new kitten Mowgli is sitting on my shoulder like a parrot watching me type, and our 110 lb dog Lugnut is laying next to me. I also like coyotes...got to ride next to one for a bit at Fullerton a few weeks ago.

Nature can be graphic, but really, while the coyotes methods aren't quite as "PC," he isn't doing anything much different than humans eating chicken sandwiches or cheeseburgers.

bruh, I am with ya 100% on that. If you have small pets, and your want to protect your "pack", then don't let it out unattended. Especially if you live near uninhabited areas. Most animals will run away if you try and scare off, but killing them should be the absolute last option.
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:40 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I lost 2 of the best cats to coyotes in my front yard the past couple of years , seems they always come down in the summer time , brutal losing your pet like that
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:50 AM   #24 (permalink)
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You're right, L8. However, in the animal world, we all belong to a pack. If an animal wants to eat a member of my pack, it's no longer nature--it's personal.

Last year I had to put a bullet in the head of a cute little skunk. It's the first time I ever shot an animal and it hurt me to do so. But in my mind, my pack comes first. Skunks are secondary.
There are ways to get rid of skunks without killing them. I hope you accidentally hit it with your car and hat to kill it because there was no way it would have lived and it was still alive but cut in half?
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:00 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Threads like this always follow a highly predictable path.
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:01 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I think a domesticated dog or cat is easier prey, an easy meal. So for coyotes' predatory behavior in neighborhoods, it makes sense. They want a meal that requires expending as less energy as possible. Domesticated cats are meatier and probably tastier than rabbits.
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:04 AM   #27 (permalink)
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This is always upsetting.

Here are a few point that might clear up what is happening. Keep in mind when I use "you" I'm speaking generally and don't mean anyone specific, just the general "you".

1. You bought a house in the hills where natural predators live.



2. These are indigenous animals. You moved to them.


3. Cats, domesticated rabbits, parrots, etc are not indigenous. You’ve brought them here.


4. Then when pets, or hikers, or mountain bikers, or kids get eaten we then want go out and kill the animals.


5. People have worked hard to remove themselves from the food chain but need to remember that we are in fact animals. We are still part of a larger system.


Does that mean if your friend is being eaten by a cougar do you just shrug your shoulders and say “Oh well”? No. You help him. But then you also need to know that if you bring domesticated animals, hikers, bikers, or even small children into a situation with wild animals there are risks and that’s nature. People make mistakes and animals end up paying the price. We should be better than that.

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Old 05-30-2008, 10:15 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Does that mean if your friend is being eaten by a cougar do you just shrug your shoulders and say “Oh well”? No. You help him.

Hold his beer for him at least


(yes I know I will be struck down for that one)
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:06 AM   #29 (permalink)
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my dog is a staight up cat killer. She goes staight for the kill every time. No sniffy sniffy and the scratches don't seem to bother her.
So far she's got 3 of them. And just like those coyotes, she eats them too.

I like cats so please people, keep yer cat outta my backyard.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:46 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I am a cat lover, but I must agree they are vicious critters. I had to put some kind of rodent out of it's misery once, because of our family pet. It was a long time ago and I forget what kind of critter it was. But I remember that it was hard and painful for me to do.

I have no pets now, and I'll probably only get one from a shelter if I do. But there are always plenty of pets for adoption (many formerly neglected/abused). I hope any animal lovers out there will recognize that it's good homes that are in short supply. Please don't let your pets breed!
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
 
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That picture and this thread's really sad because we all love a cute pussy and no one wants to see good pussy go.

Mods, you may delete this now.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:56 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Hey, look! Food chain!
along those lines, i present the following:
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:00 PM   #33 (permalink)
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on the 241 last night about 10pm a coyote came hauling across the road almost nailed it. they are definitely roaming!
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:05 PM   #34 (permalink)
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on the 241 last night about 10pm a coyote came hauling across the road almost nailed it. they are definitely roaming!
well, here's why: rain = more food for the little vegetarian critters, which in turn produces larger litters. more litters, more food further up the chain, more coyotes.

pretty simple, actually.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:07 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:09 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:12 PM   #37 (permalink)
 
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Survival of the fittest - Poor kitty.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:20 PM   #38 (permalink)
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If people kept their cats inside, they probably wouldn't get eaten by coyotes (or crap on my front lawn).

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Old 05-30-2008, 12:23 PM   #39 (permalink)
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crap- i thought my wife told me that our cat died in her sleep, not in the street...

but food chain karma is rough: cats take out thousand (milli