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92se-r · 05-13-2008, 10:47 PM

Thoughts?

http://www.onlinecpi.org/downloads/C...Brief_2007.pdf

chadster · 05-14-2008, 03:52 AM

Unfortunately this is not surprising to me and is surely bound to get worse. Notice how the brief also mentions the gap between the richest and poorest SD residents is comparable to the national average - meaning things are the same everywhere - the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. Our government is doing everything possible to ensure it stays this way - all in the name of capitalism and "free enterprise". Yet amazingly many of these poor people continue to perpetuate the cycle by not voting or voting on "values" instead of candidates who are commited to changing the cycle.

Sorry to sound so negative but this is the times we live in. Anyone who's been to the grocery store lately you will have noticed that the price of EVERYTHING has shot way up, which means even more trouble for people hovering around or below the poverity line. I could go on and on here but I'd start to sound like one of those crazy old people I used to cringe at when they started talking about "hell in a handbasket".

All we can do is get involved, vote with your brain, and burn off all the stress and anguish bombing down some nice singletrack. Too bad that last part isn't an option for many living on meager earnings with no time for fun.

bikeadict · 05-14-2008, 05:09 AM

I view this as just the way it is. (mind you I am very average in all of those numbers earning just around $50,000 a year).

What would someone who views this as a horrible social injustice propose we do to fix it???

I'm all for capitolism.
I grew up in rural Arkansas and when I was growing up my famly was below the poverty level. But I stayed away from drugs (though the options were there) finished high school went on to college and now I'm earning an average amount for the county.
In a few years I will be above average. But that doesn't take into acount the college loans I will be paying off for the next 10 years.

I think that yes there are people who earn alot of money and they should give some back. But that should be their decision. Some day I'd like to be making over $100,000 a year. When I am, I'll know that I worked my a$$ off to get there.

But yeah, back to the earlier question.

What would someone who views this as a horrible social injustice propose we do to fix it???

Abui · 05-14-2008, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 92se-r

Thoughts?

http://www.onlinecpi.org/downloads/C...Brief_2007.pdf

Ho hum. Another group using statistics for their mission - taxation, welfare, or whatever.

Interesting they don't break down the figures by education or experience.

If you want justice - go to school.

Blue Rat · 05-14-2008, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Abui

Ho hum. Another group using statistics for their mission - taxation, welfare, or whatever.

Interesting they don't break down the figures by education or experience.

If you want justice - go to school.

Well said ...

Evil Chocula · 05-14-2008, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Abui

Ho hum. Another group using statistics for their mission - taxation, welfare, or whatever.

Interesting they don't break down the figures by education or experience.

If you want justice - go to school.

-----changed my mind!--------

How bout them mountain bikes?

Pickettt · 05-14-2008, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Abui

Ho hum. Another group using statistics for their mission - taxation, welfare, or whatever.

Interesting they don't break down the figures by education or experience.

If you want justice - go to school.

An educated, experienced person would be familiar with the term "self-righteous".

OffRoadie · 05-14-2008, 06:30 AM

One should not look to the government to solve one's problems. Each person needs to take ownership of their own life.

I've had much more opportunities than some others. My parents worked really hard to create them for me. Other people are going to have it harder than me. Complaining to the government does not change any of this.

Evil Chocula · 05-14-2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OffRoadie

One should not look to the government to solve one's problems. Each person needs to take ownership of their own life.

I've had much more opportunities than some others. My parents worked really hard to create them for me. Other people are going to have it harder than me. Complaining to the government does not change any of this.

You also shoudn't tolerate the goverment making things harder for you (re: taxation of the upper class, courtesy of GWB).

Abui · 05-14-2008, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pickettt

An educated, experienced person would be familiar with the term "self-righteous".

Or self-motivated.

Pickettt · 05-14-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Abui

Or self-motivated.

Case in point

ChipsandSalsa · 05-14-2008, 06:56 AM

Hmmm..."Among the county's 995,021 full-time, year-round workers, the average annual earnings were $55,700." That average annual earnings number seems high. Maybe they meant average household income.

Dirty Tire · 05-14-2008, 07:11 AM

I was thinking the same. I was actually looking for the average household income level, but maybe I missed it? It wasn't as clearly defined as what (a lame brain such as I) I was expecting to see.

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Originally Posted by ChipsandSalsa

Hmmm..."Among the county's 995,021 full-time, year-round workers, the average annual earnings were $55,700." That average annual earnings number seems high. Maybe they meant average household income.

lardbutt · 05-14-2008, 07:24 AM

Can someone name me a government program that actually works cost-effectively?

Big(ger) government is not the answer. IMHO.

el_d00der1n0 · 05-14-2008, 07:39 AM

Does this matter to you guys? Why?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lardbutt

Can someone name me a government program that actually works cost-effectively?

Big(ger) government is not the answer. IMHO.

What is the answer?

art23rockpile · 05-14-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lardbutt

Can someone name me a government program that actually works cost-effectively?

Big(ger) government is not the answer. IMHO.

What is the answer?

For the short term: good old-fashioned ACCOUNTABILITY

Ultimately: THIRD PARTY

Democrats?

Republicans?

Until Americans shake-off their apathy and run ALL of these sleazy politicians out, NOTHING will change.

ChipsandSalsa · 05-14-2008, 08:21 AM

ChipsandSalsa · 05-14-2008, 08:28 AM

Yes, because I involuntarily fund programs that I do not believe in, or programs that are good ideas poorly executed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by el_d00der1n0

Does this matter to you guys? Why?

What is the answer?

Smaller Government coupled with more personal responsibility.

el_d00der1n0 · 05-14-2008, 08:42 AM

Here's my $0.02:

I think we as a country need to shift our priorities and put more focus on education.

05-13-2008, 10:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
92se-r STR Veteran	Income stats in San Diego Thoughts? http://www.onlinecpi.org/downloads/C...Brief_2007.pdf __________________

05-14-2008, 06:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
OffRoadie Roadie in Exile	One should not look to the government to solve one's problems. Each person needs to take ownership of their own life. I've had much more opportunities than some others. My parents worked really hard to create them for me. Other people are going to have it harder than me. Complaining to the government does not change any of this. __________________ Your father took pictures.

05-14-2008, 07:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
lardbutt I may be old, but I'm fat	Big Government Can someone name me a government program that actually works cost-effectively? Big(ger) government is not the answer. IMHO. __________________ Founding Father of the Smelly Cat Rescue League "I'm dragging my feet as fast as I can!!"

05-14-2008, 08:42 AM	#19 (permalink)
el_d00der1n0 STR Veteran	Here's my $0.02: I think we as a country need to shift our priorities and put more focus on education. __________________ My Blog

05-14-2008, 03:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
chadster Member	Unfortunately this is not surprising to me and is surely bound to get worse. Notice how the brief also mentions the gap between the richest and poorest SD residents is comparable to the national average - meaning things are the same everywhere - the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. Our government is doing everything possible to ensure it stays this way - all in the name of capitalism and "free enterprise". Yet amazingly many of these poor people continue to perpetuate the cycle by not voting or voting on "values" instead of candidates who are commited to changing the cycle. Sorry to sound so negative but this is the times we live in. Anyone who's been to the grocery store lately you will have noticed that the price of EVERYTHING has shot way up, which means even more trouble for people hovering around or below the poverity line. I could go on and on here but I'd start to sound like one of those crazy old people I used to cringe at when they started talking about "hell in a handbasket". All we can do is get involved, vote with your brain, and burn off all the stress and anguish bombing down some nice singletrack. Too bad that last part isn't an option for many living on meager earnings with no time for fun.

05-14-2008, 05:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
bikeadict bikeaholic	I view this as just the way it is. (mind you I am very average in all of those numbers earning just around $50,000 a year). What would someone who views this as a horrible social injustice propose we do to fix it??? I'm all for capitolism. I grew up in rural Arkansas and when I was growing up my famly was below the poverty level. But I stayed away from drugs (though the options were there) finished high school went on to college and now I'm earning an average amount for the county. In a few years I will be above average. But that doesn't take into acount the college loans I will be paying off for the next 10 years. I think that yes there are people who earn alot of money and they should give some back. But that should be their decision. Some day I'd like to be making over $100,000 a year. When I am, I'll know that I worked my a$$ off to get there. But yeah, back to the earlier question. What would someone who views this as a horrible social injustice propose we do to fix it???

05-14-2008, 06:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
ChipsandSalsa Senior Member	Hmmm..."Among the county's 995,021 full-time, year-round workers, the average annual earnings were $55,700." That average annual earnings number seems high. Maybe they meant average household income.

05-14-2008, 08:21 AM	#17 (permalink)
ChipsandSalsa Senior Member	...

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