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My wife and I are HARD on my oldest. What everyone else has posted. You need to set an example etc........

He is my middle boy's hero and the youngest looks up to the middle boy.

They pick-up each others habits so you try and set a standard

However I make it up to the oldest when we are alone and let him do and have special things.
take him to baseball games so he can get some rest?
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I'm an only child and my mother was tough on me too. I hold myself and the people I surround myself with to high standards because of that and sometimes I have to stop and remember not everyone thinks the same.

Case in point, my cousin who I grew up with. Her mother let her drop out of school in 8th grade, keep the baby at 17 and supported her pretty much up until even today and she's 37 - and her daughter had a baby at 17 and is now pregnant again and living with who know's what kind of people, so I get where you're coming from. It's sad, but sometimes they just have to come to terms on their own and you can't force them. Or can you?
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That is why it's so hard for me to be accept that so many of my students think mediocrity (at academics or life in general) is okay.

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I hold myself and the people I surround myself with to high standards because of that and sometimes I have to stop and remember not everyone thinks the same.
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My folks kept a tight reign on my sister(who's 5 yrs.older),and I,but they were a lot harder on her then on me.This may be why both my sister and I never wanted kids.She couldn't get away with nothing! Joe,that was a great description,sounds like a couple of my friends who have 3+ kids.- Lloyd
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take him to baseball games so he can get some rest?
He likes those barbaric sports (Rugby and Football). He is too young and immature to understand and appeciate BaseBall. Some folks never get it
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He is too young and immature to understand and appeciate BaseBall. Some folks never get it
Like the Angels?
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Like the Angels?
Yup they are too busy playing patty-cake with the Sox
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Yup they are too busy playing patty-cake with the Sox
And beating them in their own park! - Lloyd
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don't want to get another nasty-gram

It is funny with kids. I love my boys all the same but have to say......and have to admit.........sometimes have a favorite.

My wife really gets on me about it!
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I am oldest of two. I remember when I was ain college I got a Credit Card(yeah bad idea) and well it was a low max like $1000 but yeah I maxed it out and was paying the min payment. My parents found out and I got all kinda of crap for that. They cosigned for my sister to get one when she was under 18 because she a had job and everything, well it turned out that a few later they found out it was also maxed out but it was maxed at like $5000 and she had not paid it in like 3 months. They were 1000 times harder on me for maxing my own credit card that I was at least paying payments on the here maxing their credit card and not paying. I was really pissed when I found out about that. There were many other times things like that happened but thats one that has always really stuck out to me.
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OK OK From Star Wars "Stay on target"
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"Stay on topic"

I was the oldest look how great I turned out
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Being the middle child, I have slipped by pretty much unnoticed...my kid brother has it harder than I do and so does my older brother.

I think they were too nice to my older brother though. He has not grown up one bit in the last 5 years. He is 23 and still does all the stupid immature things he used to do. My parents threaten punishments but rarely deliver on it.

I think that one of the most important things is to deliver on your promises and also your punishments as a parent. The kids have to know that they can take what you say at face value.
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you got that right Phil...my kids knows when dad's going to deliver an ass spanking
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you got that right Phil...my kids knows when dad's going to deliver an ass spanking
What do you do when like four of your kids act up at the same time? Your hand must hurt
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I've heard of a lot of twentysomething year-olds who still live off of mom and dad.There's only one answer-universal conscription! 18mos.in the Army or 2yrs. doing community work such as in a hospital,etc.(Flame suit on.) - Lloyd
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I was the oldest of 8 kids. 5 boys, 3 girls.

I figured the reason my younger brothers and sisters had it easier is that I simply wore my parents out. They didn't have much left by the time my youngest brother was born. I know my grandmother and aunt told my dad he was too hard on me. I remember when I was about 20, my mom saying something like, "If I can just get your brothers to 18 years old, I've succeeded." After 8 kids, my parents, especially my dad is really mellow.
So true and I'm the kid sister, definitely easier than the older ones. I was mostly a middle child.
 
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So true and I'm the kid sister, definitely easier than the older ones. I was mostly a middle child.

Yeah, but I think you had a tough spot in the line up. You're the one that protected Jim from the rest of the neighborhood. I remember one day I came out to the front yard to see Jim being chased by some other kids. No telling what he did to them, but you stepped out in front of the kids as Jim ran by and threatened to take them on. Saving his butt again. I'm sure you have lots of other times I don't even know about.

Of course I saved him a time or two. Again, I don't know what Jim did, but Tom at about 4 years old was chasing him with a hammer. I grabbed Tom by the waist and carried him in the house, saving Jim again.

No wonder Mom and Dad moved 350 miles away!
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Bill Gates was given credit for this although I don't believe he actually said it. None the less very pertinent for todays youth, first born or last.

BILL GATES' SPEECH TO MT. WHITNEY HIGH SCHOOL in Visalia, California.

Love him or hate him, he sure hits the nail on the head with this!

To anyone with kids of any age, here's some advice. Bill Gates recently gave a speech at a High School about 11 things they did not and will not learn in school. He talks about how feel-good, politically correct teachings created a generation of kids with no concept of reality and how this concept set them up for failure in the real world.

Rule 1: Life is not fair -- get used to it!

Rule 2: The world won't care about your self-esteem.
The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.

Rule 3: You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.

Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.

Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping -- they called it opportunity.

Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them.

Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you thought you are. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.

Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life HAS NOT. In some schools they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as MANY TIMES as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.

Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you FIND YOURSELF. Do that on your own time.

Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.

Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
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