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foofighter · 04-07-2008, 06:56 PM

the new BMW M3 firing off a piston in this ad

KeepsWhatHappens · 04-07-2008, 07:16 PM

mmmmmm me wants one...mmmmmmm me covets one. Might have to trade in the S4 for it

foofighter · 04-07-2008, 07:19 PM

there's no question about it John...the M3 is a beast and in any trim will be yummy

faded1004 · 04-07-2008, 07:34 PM

wow... piston... fuel... fire... power...

YUMMY...

bighit8 · 04-07-2008, 07:35 PM

They are fast, but I never liked the clutch less stick shift, just feels odd and not really fun to use. Hope they have improved or changed this on newer models.

foofighter · 04-07-2008, 07:36 PM

no SMG on these V8 monsters danny just pure rowing happiness

Rivet · 04-07-2008, 07:45 PM

The M3 has turned into a pig. There is no reason for that car to weigh 3650lbs other than to accessories it for the poseurs and Coto moms. The E30 and even the E36 were drivers cars. BMW need to do a stripper version of that car that weighs 1000lbs less. As it is now it's just an S4 without the ridiculous understeer.

foofighter · 04-07-2008, 07:51 PM

well a lot of the weight comes from the safety improvements that's required now on the modern day road cars. You have to admit that the later gen BMW's are more rigid and stronger than before so something has to give. I dont think an E30 M3 would pass federal crash test nowadays.

the newer B8 S4 or the current RS4's have the more current generation of Torsen that's more rear wheel biased like 40/60 split rather than 50/50 before so it should be a lot better...plus w/ the new B8 chassis the motor and tranny is more further back so as a result you have a much closer 50/50 weight distribution than before that made the S4's such an understeering PORKer.

Rivet · 04-07-2008, 08:08 PM

Actually it's a moot point because I'd take a Z06 in a heartbeat over an M3. Heck I'd take a Z06 over pretty much anything, best bang for the buck drivers car on the planet. Have you seen LA BMW dealers are marking M3's up $30,000. $100,000 for an M3, what a joke.

foofighter · 04-07-2008, 08:16 PM

yes that's a rude rude thing to do did you hear bout the guy out here that won an ebay auction for a brand new M3 sedan and the dam dealership didnt want to honor the auction...after much harassment from the interweb community and some pro-bono attorney work they changed there minds and he's the owner of a BMW M3 sedan for 60k!

the Z06 is a great performer when it comes to bang for the buck but dammit if i'm not enthralled with the new GTR (so are the magazines) did you see the shootout they did with the Z06 and the Porsche Turbo? it SPANKED both of them it's an awesome car.

Collette · 04-07-2008, 08:25 PM

IS-F anyone? I'm actually not a big paddle-shifting fan myself, but I've always loved the look of the IS.

foofighter · 04-07-2008, 08:32 PM

the IS-F is kind of an disappointment for me. I know they're trying to go their own direction in terms of performance but dammit wtf is up w/ the double stacked quad exhausts???? I saw one in RSM on one our rides and it looked ok...i really like the subtle looks of the S4/RS4/E90 M3 just subtle muscular bulges without drawing too much attention to itself. And 8 speeds is nice but I WANT to row my own gears

The fenders on the IS-F seem a bit over the top with the vented sides you know what i mean?

Rivet · 04-07-2008, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foofighter

yes that's a rude rude thing to do did you hear bout the guy out here that won an ebay auction for a brand new M3 sedan and the dam dealership didnt want to honor the auction...after much harassment from the interweb community and some pro-bono attorney work they changed there minds and he's the owner of a BMW M3 sedan for 60k!

the Z06 is a great performer when it comes to bang for the buck but dammit if i'm not enthralled with the new GTR (so are the magazines) did you see the shootout they did with the Z06 and the Porsche Turbo? it SPANKED both of them it's an awesome car.

I'm sure you're referring to the Road & Track article. For what it's worth all the testing was done by Steve Millen and he has a vested interest in the GTR performing the best. This isn't just speculation, I know him pretty well, I was an engineer/fabricator for him for 4 years. Sooooo, take that test with a grain of salt. I like the GTR but again it's 4000lbs, it uses electronics to get you around the track quickly, I'd rather have a lighter nimble car that required more input from the driver, cest la vie.

foofighter · 04-07-2008, 08:40 PM

i think it was Road and Track 3 car shoot out...didnt know about the GT3 that's an awesome feat to beat the P car...but you know competition improves the breed and i'm sure Porsche has dissected a GTR already and coming up with their own

Keith B · 04-07-2008, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foofighter

i think it was Road and Track 3 car shoot out...didnt know about the GT3 that's an awesome feat to beat the P car...but you know competition improves the breed and i'm sure Porsche has dissected a GTR already and coming up with their own

They already have..............the new GT2 is about to be released

Ought to be a major showdown.

mazda-monkey · 04-07-2008, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivet

I'm sure you're referring to the Road & Track article. For what it's worth all the testing was done by Steve Millen and he has a vested interest in the GTR performing the best. This isn't just speculation, I know him pretty well, I was an engineer/fabricator for him for 4 years. Sooooo, take that test with a grain of salt. I like the GTR but again it's 4000lbs, it uses electronics to get you around the track quickly, I'd rather have a lighter nimble car that required more input from the driver, cest la vie.

That's a Miata / MX-5.

foofighter · 04-07-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith B

They already have..............the new GT2 is about to be released

Ought to be a major showdown.

the price category the GT2 looses LOL i think you can get 2 GTR's for the price of a GT2...rumor has it that there's a GTR Spec V testing at the 'ring'

Keith B · 04-07-2008, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foofighter

the price category the GT2 looses LOL i think you can get 2 GTR's for the price of a GT2...rumor has it that there's a GTR Spec V testing at the 'ring'

Thats very true. Throw price into the equation and the GTR walks away with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazda-monkey

That's a Miata / MX-5.

Negative raptorman thats a Lotus Elise.

foofighter · 04-07-2008, 08:48 PM

what i am waiting to see are the wreck pics and photos of totalled GTR's in the hands of "would-be" boy racers

faded1004 · 04-07-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foofighter

what i am waiting to see are the wreck pics and photos of totalled GTR's in the hands of "would-be" boy racers

isnt' there a website for that? i heard it from my friend... let me ask him about it... i think there are 2 gtr's that are crashed already...

04-07-2008, 06:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
foofighter Duan'er - 29'er remixed	No CGI here shot at 10000 frames/sec the new BMW M3 firing off a piston in this ad __________________ Pho'd Up: " Heart Rate Monitor + Road miles = fast. Chasing Neil, and Chris (Sar Boats) = Faster." www.coverageispersonal.com Click the Button

04-07-2008, 07:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
foofighter Duan'er - 29'er remixed	there's no question about it John...the M3 is a beast and in any trim will be yummy __________________ Pho'd Up: " Heart Rate Monitor + Road miles = fast. Chasing Neil, and Chris (Sar Boats) = Faster." www.coverageispersonal.com Click the Button

04-07-2008, 07:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
bighit8 STR Veteran	They are fast, but I never liked the clutch less stick shift, just feels odd and not really fun to use. Hope they have improved or changed this on newer models. __________________ singletrack angel: is that a real hole Fred? Mtbnbikefred: Yes,I have stuck all kind of things in it.

04-07-2008, 07:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
foofighter Duan'er - 29'er remixed	no SMG on these V8 monsters danny just pure rowing happiness __________________ Pho'd Up: " Heart Rate Monitor + Road miles = fast. Chasing Neil, and Chris (Sar Boats) = Faster." www.coverageispersonal.com Click the Button

04-07-2008, 07:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
foofighter Duan'er - 29'er remixed	well a lot of the weight comes from the safety improvements that's required now on the modern day road cars. You have to admit that the later gen BMW's are more rigid and stronger than before so something has to give. I dont think an E30 M3 would pass federal crash test nowadays. the newer B8 S4 or the current RS4's have the more current generation of Torsen that's more rear wheel biased like 40/60 split rather than 50/50 before so it should be a lot better...plus w/ the new B8 chassis the motor and tranny is more further back so as a result you have a much closer 50/50 weight distribution than before that made the S4's such an understeering PORKer. __________________ Pho'd Up: " Heart Rate Monitor + Road miles = fast. Chasing Neil, and Chris (Sar Boats) = Faster." www.coverageispersonal.com Click the Button

04-07-2008, 07:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
KeepsWhatHappens Warriors Society Member	mmmmmm me wants one...mmmmmmm me covets one. Might have to trade in the S4 for it

04-07-2008, 07:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
faded1004 STR Veteran	wow... piston... fuel... fire... power... YUMMY...

04-07-2008, 07:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rivet Senior Member	The M3 has turned into a pig. There is no reason for that car to weigh 3650lbs other than to accessories it for the poseurs and Coto moms. The E30 and even the E36 were drivers cars. BMW need to do a stripper version of that car that weighs 1000lbs less. As it is now it's just an S4 without the ridiculous understeer.

04-07-2008, 08:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rivet Senior Member	Actually it's a moot point because I'd take a Z06 in a heartbeat over an M3. Heck I'd take a Z06 over pretty much anything, best bang for the buck drivers car on the planet. Have you seen LA BMW dealers are marking M3's up $30,000. $100,000 for an M3, what a joke.

04-07-2008, 08:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
foofighter Duan'er - 29'er remixed	yes that's a rude rude thing to do did you hear bout the guy out here that won an ebay auction for a brand new M3 sedan and the dam dealership didnt want to honor the auction...after much harassment from the interweb community and some pro-bono attorney work they changed there minds and he's the owner of a BMW M3 sedan for 60k! the Z06 is a great performer when it comes to bang for the buck but dammit if i'm not enthralled with the new GTR (so are the magazines) did you see the shootout they did with the Z06 and the Porsche Turbo? it SPANKED both of them it's an awesome car. __________________ Pho'd Up: " Heart Rate Monitor + Road miles = fast. Chasing Neil, and Chris (Sar Boats) = Faster." www.coverageispersonal.com Click the Button

04-07-2008, 08:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Collette Member	IS-F anyone? I'm actually not a big paddle-shifting fan myself, but I've always loved the look of the IS.

04-07-2008, 08:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
foofighter Duan'er - 29'er remixed	the IS-F is kind of an disappointment for me. I know they're trying to go their own direction in terms of performance but dammit wtf is up w/ the double stacked quad exhausts???? I saw one in RSM on one our rides and it looked ok...i really like the subtle looks of the S4/RS4/E90 M3 just subtle muscular bulges without drawing too much attention to itself. And 8 speeds is nice but I WANT to row my own gears The fenders on the IS-F seem a bit over the top with the vented sides you know what i mean? __________________ Pho'd Up: " Heart Rate Monitor + Road miles = fast. Chasing Neil, and Chris (Sar Boats) = Faster." www.coverageispersonal.com Click the Button

04-07-2008, 08:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
foofighter Duan'er - 29'er remixed	i think it was Road and Track 3 car shoot out...didnt know about the GT3 that's an awesome feat to beat the P car...but you know competition improves the breed and i'm sure Porsche has dissected a GTR already and coming up with their own __________________ Pho'd Up: " Heart Rate Monitor + Road miles = fast. Chasing Neil, and Chris (Sar Boats) = Faster." www.coverageispersonal.com Click the Button

04-07-2008, 08:48 PM	#19 (permalink)
foofighter Duan'er - 29'er remixed	what i am waiting to see are the wreck pics and photos of totalled GTR's in the hands of "would-be" boy racers __________________ Pho'd Up: " Heart Rate Monitor + Road miles = fast. Chasing Neil, and Chris (Sar Boats) = Faster." www.coverageispersonal.com Click the Button

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