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Apparently the benefits of drinking H20 doesn't hold water

Study Debunks Value of Guzzling Water
By Will Dunham,
Reuters

WASHINGTON (April 3) - The notion that guzzling glasses of water to flood yourself with good health is all wet, researchers said on Wednesday.

Dr. Stanley Goldfarb and Dr. Dan Negoianu of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia reviewed the scientific literature on the health effects of drinking lots of water.

People in hot, dry climates and athletes have an increased need for water, and people with certain diseases do better with increased fluid intake, they found. But for average healthy people, more water does not seem to mean better health, they said.

Their scientific review, published in the Journal of the American Society of Nephrology, is the latest to undercut the recommendations advanced by some experts to drink eight glasses of 8 ounces of water a day.

Dr. Heinz Valtin of Dartmouth Medical School in 2002 also put those recommendations to the test, finding them to be more urban myth than medical dogma and lacking in scientific basis.

Goldfarb and Negoianu examined what Goldfarb called "four major myths" regarding claims of a benefit for extra water drinking: that it leads to more toxin excretion, improves skin tone, makes one less hungry and reduces headache frequency.

"Our bottom line was that there was no real good science -- or much science at all -- behind these claims, that they represent probably folklore," Goldfarb said.

As far as facilitating toxin excretion, Goldfarb said that was not verified by any sort of scientific study.

"The kidneys clear toxins. This is what the kidneys do. They do it very effectively. And they do it independently of how much water you take in. When you take in a lot of water, all you do is put out more urine but not more toxins in the urine," Goldfarb said.

No studies showed any benefit to skin tone as a result of increased water intake, they found. They also found evidence lacking that drinking water wards off headaches.

As far as lots of water serving to limit appetite, he said there was no consistent evidence, adding it was "a little unclear exactly whether that was true."

"What no one looked at is whether anyone really loses weight over the long haul if they go under this regimen of drinking lots of water," Goldfarb said. "We just expressed uncertainty in that area."

While it may not help a person to drink lots of water, it may not harm them much either, Goldfarb said.

"If someone enjoys it, I say that's wonderful, keep doing it. They're not doing anything that's going to hurt them."

"A little mild dehydration for the most part is OK, and a little mild water excess for the most part is OK. It's the extremes that one needs to avoid," he said.

allison

Dude for every study that proves something another study comes out that proves it wrong.

You guys can go ahead and stop drinking water, but I am gonna keep at it

Collette

DownHillPhil

There are too many sets of facts in this world.

Where are all the "fact facts"?

Politicians each have different sets of facts...doctors have different sets of facts...nothing in life is certain except for death and taxes.

CeeDubb

Where's the water refund form? I'm so gonna petition for a class-action suit if there ain't one started already.

Kid A

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Where's the water refund form? I'm so gonna petition for a class-action suit if there ain't one started already.

payments will be made in poseidon debentures

Fired Yo Momma

Whats it say about beer?

elab

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Originally Posted by Fired Yo Momma

Whats it say about beer?

Beer still helps you feel better.

Kid A

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Originally Posted by Fired Yo Momma

Whats it say about beer?

dood what kind of Q is that. what else could it say but:

Alex

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Originally Posted by Kid A

Apparently the benefits of drinking H20 doesn't hold water

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Er, just to clarify; You do need water; they're talking about excess water only.

Kid A

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Originally Posted by Alex

Er, just to clarify; You do need water; they're talking about excess water only.

Moderation is a fatal thing. . . . Nothing succeeds like excess. O.wilde

reflux

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Originally Posted by DownHillPhil

There are too many sets of facts in this world.

Where are all the "fact facts"?

Politicians each have different sets of facts...doctors have different sets of facts...nothing in life is certain except for death and taxes.

You forgot the fact of all facts: reflux is awesome because he can talk in the third person. "Reflux just wants to get paid! Reflux is trying to do what's right for him and his family."

dirtvert

thank you. it's hard to find a bigger waste of money (and resources) than buying bottled water to sip obsessively all day.

slowSSer

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Originally Posted by allison

Dude for every study that proves something another study comes out that proves it wrong.

and don't forget that lab research causes cancer in rats.

R2D2

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Originally Posted by Kid A

dood what kind of Q is that. what else could it say but:

hey..my wife is a nurse..but I never see her like this...

mazer75

"He died of the dehydration coach!"
- Bobby Boucher

Kid A

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Originally Posted by mazer75

"He died of the dehydration coach!"
- Bobby Boucher

My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

reflux

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Originally Posted by Kid A

My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

sonofabitch I can't recall the line that comes after this one. Argh!!

evdog

I remember another article a while back that discredited the 8 glasses of water. It wasn't that we don't need this much water - we actually do. But we get a lot of it through the food and other drinks we consume which means drinking 8 glasses of water is unnecessary. But the advice columnists and other so-called "experts" fail to mention this....maybe because they don't really know what they're talking about???

dirtvert

yea, what do those fancy-shmanzy scientists with their multiple degrees really know...probably the same idiots that faked the moon landing.


Kid A Free the Trails	First Airborne...now this??? *Apparently the benefits of drinking H20 doesn't hold water* Study Debunks Value of Guzzling Water By Will Dunham, Reuters WASHINGTON (April 3) - The notion that guzzling glasses of water to flood yourself with good health is all wet, researchers said on Wednesday. Dr. Stanley Goldfarb and Dr. Dan Negoianu of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia reviewed the scientific literature on the health effects of drinking lots of water. People in hot, dry climates and athletes have an increased need for water, and people with certain diseases do better with increased fluid intake, they found. But for average healthy people, more water does not seem to mean better health, they said. Their scientific review, published in the Journal of the American Society of Nephrology, is the latest to undercut the recommendations advanced by some experts to drink eight glasses of 8 ounces of water a day. Dr. Heinz Valtin of Dartmouth Medical School in 2002 also put those recommendations to the test, finding them to be more urban myth than medical dogma and lacking in scientific basis. Goldfarb and Negoianu examined what Goldfarb called "four major myths" regarding claims of a benefit for extra water drinking: that it leads to more toxin excretion, improves skin tone, makes one less hungry and reduces headache frequency. "Our bottom line was that there was no real good science -- or much science at all -- behind these claims, that they represent probably folklore," Goldfarb said. As far as facilitating toxin excretion, Goldfarb said that was not verified by any sort of scientific study. "The kidneys clear toxins. This is what the kidneys do. They do it very effectively. And they do it independently of how much water you take in. When you take in a lot of water, all you do is put out more urine but not more toxins in the urine," Goldfarb said. No studies showed any benefit to skin tone as a result of increased water intake, they found. They also found evidence lacking that drinking water wards off headaches. As far as lots of water serving to limit appetite, he said there was no consistent evidence, adding it was "a little unclear exactly whether that was true." "What no one looked at is whether anyone really loses weight over the long haul if they go under this regimen of drinking lots of water," Goldfarb said. "We just expressed uncertainty in that area." While it may not help a person to drink lots of water, it may not harm them much either, Goldfarb said. "If someone enjoys it, I say that's wonderful, keep doing it. They're not doing anything that's going to hurt them." "A little mild dehydration for the most part is OK, and a little mild water excess for the most part is OK. It's the extremes that one needs to avoid," he said. __________________ "I AM NOT LOUD! I'm exuberant."


allison Trail Paparazzi	Dude for every study that proves something another study comes out that proves it wrong. You guys can go ahead and stop drinking water, but I am gonna keep at it __________________ My Blog The Path Crank Brothers


DownHillPhil Dogboy	There are too many sets of facts in this world. Where are all the "fact facts"? Politicians each have different sets of facts...doctors have different sets of facts...nothing in life is certain except for death and taxes. __________________ Division 26 Clothing "Speed is your friend!" friendly advice from wheel slayer


CeeDubb 9.8m/sec² - It's the law	Where's the water refund form? I'm so gonna petition for a class-action suit if there ain't one started already. __________________


Fired Yo Momma Client 9	Whats it say about beer? __________________ And the hangovers hurt more than they used to And corn bread and ice tea took the place of pills and 80 proof And it seems like none of us do the things quite like we used to do And nobody wants to get high on the town And all my rowdy friends have settled down -Hank Williams Jr.


dirtvert yo momma's so fat...	thank you. it's hard to find a bigger waste of money (and resources) than buying bottled water to sip obsessively all day. __________________ Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.-- Ralph W. Emerson (the Father of Poaching)


mazer75 Rocket Man	"He died of the dehydration coach!" - Bobby Boucher


evdog Member	I remember another article a while back that discredited the 8 glasses of water. It wasn't that we don't need this much water - we actually do. But we get a lot of it through the food and other drinks we consume which means drinking 8 glasses of water is unnecessary. But the advice columnists and other so-called "experts" fail to mention this....maybe because they don't really know what they're talking about???


Collette Member	.. __________________ MyTurnerBike

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