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Old 03-22-2008, 10:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"He has Risen indeed!"

Just want to wish everyone a blessed Easter. God bless you all.

Now for a little trivia... Where does the statement, "He has risen." and the response, "He has risen indeed." stem from? and what was the purpose of stating this to another in the past?

And similarly, where does the symbol of the Christian fish come from? and what was the purpose?

First one to answer both wins... Nothing!!
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry, all secular/Darwin/science here. But god bless all who find peace in religion and divine creation.!
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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For those who know me I'm definitely not a wholesome Christian kid and I cuss like a sailor but I have had a lot of theology rammed down my throat over the years.

This is a Mountain biking forum and you tread on risky water by discussing religion but I'll put this in more contemporary terms. Maybe offensive to some but whatever.

The fish symbol probably comes from the original verse where christ says to a group of the original 12 apostles at the sea of Galilee, "I will make you fishers of men." Sounds like he's trying to turn them gay, but whatever.

The ancient Romans used to persecute the early christian church so instead of asking, "hey bro, are you christian?", they would just drawn the jesus fish symbol in the dirt as kind of an ancient secret gang sign or graffiti that they were, "followers of the way." Others knew what the symbol meant would chit chat about Christianity. If not, people would just look at them and say, "what the F__ck are you talking about," and go about their business rather than turning them into the Roman authorities for being Christian.

Secondly, the "he has risen indeed" statement probably comes from Luke 24 where Jesus christo appears to the 12 apostles who are scared sh!tless of the Romans after their leader was executed. Then the bearded one appears with the disciples as has lunch or dinner then they realize it was him and "holy sh!t, dead man walking."
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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For those who know me I'm definitely not a wholesome Christian kid but I have had a lot of theology rammed down my throat over the years.

This is a Mountain biking forum and you tread on risky water by discussing religion but I'll put this in more contemporary terms. Maybe offensive to some but whatever.

The fish symbol probably comes from the original verse where christ says to a group of the original 12 apostles at the sea of Galilee, "I will make you fishers of men." Sounds like he's trying to turn them gay, but whatever.

The ancient Romans used to persecute the early christian church so instead of asking, "hey bro, are you christian?", they would just drawn the jesus fish symbol in the dirt as kind of an ancient secret gang sign or graffiti that they were, "followers of the way." Others knew what the symbol meant would chit chat about Christianity. If not, people would just look at them and say, "what the F__ck are you talking about," and go about their business.

Secondly, the "he has risen indeed" statement probably comes from Luke 24 where Jesus christo appears to the 12 apostles who are scared sh!tless of the Romans after their leader was executed. Then the bearded appears with the disciples as has lunch or dinner then they realize it was him and "holy sh!t, dead man walking."
I would have said it differently but yes. They also uttered the phrase to each other as a way of identifying fellow believers.
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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For those who know me I'm definitely not a wholesome Christian kid but I have had a lot of theology rammed down my throat over the years.

This is a Mountain biking forum and you tread on risky water by discussing religion but I'll put this in more contemporary terms. Maybe offensive to some but whatever.

The fish symbol probably comes from the original verse where christ says to a group of the original 12 apostles at the sea of Galilee, "I will make you fishers of men." Sounds like he's trying to turn them gay, but whatever.

The ancient Romans used to persecute the early christian church so instead of asking, "hey bro, are you christian?", they would just drawn the jesus fish symbol in the dirt as kind of an ancient secret gang sign or graffiti that they were, "followers of the way." Others knew what the symbol meant would chit chat about Christianity. If not, people would just look at them and say, "what the F__ck are you talking about," and go about their business.

Secondly, the "he has risen indeed" statement probably comes from Luke 24 where Jesus christo appears to the 12 apostles who are scared sh!tless of the Romans after their leader was executed. Then the bearded appears with the disciples as has lunch or dinner then they realize it was him and "holy sh!t, dead man walking."
Thanks stinky, no need to explain.Go on with youre Bad self!
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I would have said it differently but yes. They also uttered the phrase to each other as a way of identifying fellow believers.
The same goes for you, I am just wishing for a good day for all.
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The same goes for you, I am just wishing for a good day for all.
I am with you. Not trying to push anything just hoping everyone has a good day.

Like he said Stinky, no need to explain or pre-apologize. I felt nothing malicious in your post my Brother.
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I thought that it was a fish symbol because the word ICHTHUS in Greek means "fish" and the word is supposed to be an acrostic:
I (iota)= Iesou (Jesus)
CH (chi) = Christou (Christ)
TH (theta) = Theou (God)
U (upsilon) = (h)Uios (Son) - "h" is a punctuation mark in Greek
S (sigma) = Soter (Savior)

Two years of Greek and Hebrew in seminary and that's all I remember!
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I was actually under the impression that followers of christ would draw an arc in the dirt (sand, parchment, whatever) and the responder would draw a second arc making the "fish" symbol and thus proving they were in the know and not a Roman spy.

I could be wrong though as I haven't set foot on holy ground since Reagan was in office...the first time.
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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We got all types on STR from Southern Baptist Bible Thumpers, to Full-Blown Atheists. The good news is we all have one thing in common: We all love mountain biking and (for the most part) each other. I'm a believer. Some of my best friends on STR are most certainly not. I love the fact that we can be respectful of each other on this forum. Let's keep it that way. As long as no one tells me I'm full of $4it, I won't tell anyone they're going to burn in H3ll

Blessings.
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Everybody has to believe in something....I believe I'll have another Arrogant Bastard Ale, mmmmmmmm, hoppy.
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Happy Easter to all riders....
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Old 03-23-2008, 07:57 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Let each man/woman be convinced in their own way. Happy Easter
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Happy Easter to everyone!

Easter sure seems different at the River. We just finished up an Easter egg hunt with the eggs hidden in jet skis, see doos, boats and trailers. The kids had a great time.
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