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Old 03-17-2008, 07:36 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Honda dropping Accord Hybrid

Next generation Accord will not have hybrid version, diesel option possible.

By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney.com staff writer
POSTED: 2:09 p.m. EDT, June 5, 2007



NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The new Honda Accord, which will go on sale in September, will not be available in a gasoline-electric hybrid version, according to a company spokesman.
"We have found that our hybrid system works better on smaller cars," said Chris Naughton, a Honda spokesman.
Honda previously announced that it will introduce a new hybrid car in 2009. That car will be smaller in size and less expensive than the Honda Civic Hybrid. The Accord, a midsized car, is larger and more expensive than the Civic.
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Honda currently makes a hybrid version of the Accord that's engineered to provide a balance of performance and fuel economy, using a 6-cylinder gasoline engine rather than a smaller 4-cylinder engine.
The competing Toyota Camry Hybrid uses a four-cylinder engine resulting in considerably better fuel economy than the Accord Hybrid.
Hybrid cars use electric motors to supplement power from the gasoline, resulting in improved fuel economy.
Hybrids accounted for 14 percent of Camrys sold last month, but just 1.4 percent of Accords, according to data from Power Information Networks, an auto research firm. The Accord and Camry are the two best-selling passenger cars in the United States.
"We have seen that what interests hybrid consumers is ultimate fuel economy," Naughton said.
Honda has previously said it will introduce a new 4-cylinder diesel engine in the United States by 2009. Diesel engines get considerably better fuel economy than gasoline engines without the technical complexity of gasoline-electric hybrid systems.
With cleaner diesel fuel available here, allowing engines to meet strict emissions requirements, diesel cars will become more widely available in this country in coming years.
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Honda has not said whether the Accord would get the diesel engine. The European version of the Accord - a car sold in the United States as the Acura TSX - is available in Europe with a diesel engine.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:37 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Honda dropping Accord Hybrid

Next generation Accord will not have hybrid version, diesel option possible.

By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney.com staff writer
POSTED: 2:09 p.m. EDT, June 5, 2007



NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The new Honda Accord, which will go on sale in September, will not be available in a gasoline-electric hybrid version, according to a company spokesman.
"We have found that our hybrid system works better on smaller cars," said Chris Naughton, a Honda spokesman.
Honda previously announced that it will introduce a new hybrid car in 2009. That car will be smaller in size and less expensive than the Honda Civic Hybrid. The Accord, a midsized car, is larger and more expensive than the Civic.
13 great fuel-efficient cars
Honda currently makes a hybrid version of the Accord that's engineered to provide a balance of performance and fuel economy, using a 6-cylinder gasoline engine rather than a smaller 4-cylinder engine.
The competing Toyota Camry Hybrid uses a four-cylinder engine resulting in considerably better fuel economy than the Accord Hybrid.
Hybrid cars use electric motors to supplement power from the gasoline, resulting in improved fuel economy.
Hybrids accounted for 14 percent of Camrys sold last month, but just 1.4 percent of Accords, according to data from Power Information Networks, an auto research firm. The Accord and Camry are the two best-selling passenger cars in the United States.
"We have seen that what interests hybrid consumers is ultimate fuel economy," Naughton said.
Honda has previously said it will introduce a new 4-cylinder diesel engine in the United States by 2009. Diesel engines get considerably better fuel economy than gasoline engines without the technical complexity of gasoline-electric hybrid systems.
With cleaner diesel fuel available here, allowing engines to meet strict emissions requirements, diesel cars will become more widely available in this country in coming years.
GM OKs contracts for Chevy Volt
Honda has not said whether the Accord would get the diesel engine. The European version of the Accord - a car sold in the United States as the Acura TSX - is available in Europe with a diesel engine.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:42 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:43 PM   #144 (permalink)
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What kind of mileage does it get?
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:47 PM   #145 (permalink)
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There's a world market for gasoline and diesel, so worldwide demand and supply set prices. Last I read the economies in China and India were exploding and Opec is restricting production. In our region of the world it moves somewhat with certain types of heating oil. Low sulfur diesel is not as plentiful. I also think the tax on Diesel is somewhat higher than gasoline. Low $ also hurts.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:50 PM   #146 (permalink)
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I'm thinking about a gas scooter. The Yamaha C3 gets a claimed 115 mpg and has a big a$$ storage box under the seat (party cooler?)! If you have a short commute and $1500 why not? You probably only average 35/40 mph (top speed of these) driving to your work with stop lights anyway...PLUS, you can still split lanes!
Scooter for life!!! I would recommend getting the Vino 125 (what I have) because 50cc's is significantly slower. GET ONE!!

I love riding mine and I love filling up the tank, about a gallon. Also lane splitting is one of the most fun things ever!
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:59 PM   #147 (permalink)
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What kind of mileage does it get?
25 city
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:00 PM   #148 (permalink)
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Not too shabby..my Dodge Omni still gets about 30 city
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:02 PM   #149 (permalink)
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Not too shabby..my Dodge Omni still gets about 30 city
30 what? stall outs?
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:03 PM   #150 (permalink)
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30 what? stall outs?
30 miles per minute there light speed
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:04 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Not too shabby..my Dodge Omni still gets about 30 city

I want more. That's why I was considering a Hybrid. don't think that's the way to go, though.
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:09 PM   #152 (permalink)
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I want more. That's why I was considering a Hybrid. don't think that's the way to go, though.
Yeah, I know I roll strong and all, but I keeps it real
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:10 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Yeah, I know I roll strong and all, but I keeps it real
what are ya saying? you won't buy a honda hybrid unless its the hardknocks edition?
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:12 PM   #154 (permalink)
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what are ya saying? you won't buy a honda hybrid unless its the hardknocks edition?
I don't touch nothing unless it's old-school hooptie
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:14 PM   #155 (permalink)
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people can't bitch when they are in the starbucks drive thru letting that fat Hummer idle.
True. However San Luis Obispo doesn't allow drive thrus. We have to get out of our damn car and walk into Starbucks.

We haven't seen gas that high in downtown SLO. The average is $3.60 a gallon. There is a town about 40 miles from us towards Big Sur that's over 5 bucks a gal.
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True. However San Luis Obispo doesn't allow drive thrus. We have to get out of our damn car and walk into Starbucks.

We haven't seen gas that high in downtown SLO. The average is $3.60 a gallon. There is a town about 40 miles from us towards Big Sur that's over 5 bucks a gal.
what about the fast food joints?
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:28 PM   #157 (permalink)
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what year camry do you have??
2002 Camry 90,000 perfect condition
Better replace the timing belt/water pump soon if you haven't done so already!
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This is why I purchase shares in oil companies, to subsidize the extra cost. I also smoke, so yes, I own a little part of Phillip Morris as well. They're expanding into China and India these days. My only stock advice, buy what you use. (excuse me while I hack up my other lung.)
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Better replace the timing belt/water pump soon if you haven't done so already!
Only if it's a V6. The 4 cyl switched to a timing chain in 2002.
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