$5.20/gallon

[Danimal]

Toyota warranties the batteries for 100,000 miles.
Just sayin'...

Originally Posted by Elisheva

Hey guys,

Can you give me the lowdown on Hybrids? I am seriously thinking about trading in my Camry for a Prius. My relatives in Europe have told me for 6 mos that U.S. gas will hit and exceed $6 per gallon. I'm putting miles on my car more than ever right now (teenager).

This is the problem: spoke to a Auction dealer today and he DID NOT recommend Hybrids stating they don't get the gas mileage they claim they do. Case in point is the Honda Civic they discontinued.

Every person I've spoken to that owns a Hybrid loves them, loves the savings in gas. But, come on, at some point they must purchase a new battery with labor costs. I'm told $3500 for battery and $500 to put in.

Since we are in a recession and gas prices are expected to rise, I'm thinking maybe I'm better off in a 2007 Corolla.

Help me out here!! Thanks!

[TrailJesus]

Originally Posted by Elisheva

Don't forget, guys, what's gonna happen to your body if you get in an accident with one of those "smart cars". Something to take in consideration.

I suppose if you're dead, no worries about gas prices.

Honda Fit got a 5 star crash rating

[Elisheva]

Originally Posted by integradriv3r

Honda Fit got a 5 star crash rating

I stand corrected. Thanks.

[Dominicg]

Originally Posted by Elisheva

Don't forget, guys, what's gonna happen to your body if you get in an accident with one of those "smart cars". Something to take in consideration.

I suppose if you're dead, no worries about gas prices.

actually, they have a pretty good crash test rating. The body frame is built like roll cage and will take a lot of force to crush the car itself. but i do not know about the occupants..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s

[Danimal]

It take $2 to purchase an English pound.
that makes this car $24,000.
And the way the dollar is fallnig, you can expect it to cost much more very soon.

Originally Posted by Edog

Peugeot 207 Sport 1.6 VTi 3dr


Image for illustrative purposes only
Quick Summary

List Price:
£12,125
Typical Monthly HP:
£380.30
1+35 payments, 8.9%APR
Body:
Hatchback
Engine:
4, 1598 cc
Fuel:
Unleaded
Power, bhp:
120@6000
Torque, lb ft:
120@4250
CO2 Emissions:
145 g/km
167 g/km (auto)
Graduated Vehicle Excise Duty:
Band C, £115/year
Band E, £165/year (auto)
Transmission:
5-spd/4-spd
Driven Wheels:
F

Performance
Manual
Top speed:
125 mph
0 - 62 mph:
10.7 seconds
Fuel consumption:
46.3 mpg (combined cycle)
Automatic
Top speed:
122 mph
0 - 62 mph:
12.7 seconds
Fuel consumption:
40.3 mpg (combined cycle)

125 mph seems very fast when you are sitting in a very small car!

[Dominicg]

Originally Posted by drew12

Toyota warranties the batteries for 100,000 miles.
Just sayin'...

Yes but they are extremely dangerous.

I'm not sure of the exact kind of battery inside of a prius, but if it is a Li-Poly or Li-Ion, you could be screwed in and accident, or a very serious discharge. I know when a Li-Poly battery loses/discharges to much energy, they simply explode/burst/go up in flames.

Something i will not ride on top of.

[Seat Sniffer]

my suzuki gets 52 mpg on 87 and can go 300 miles between fill ups

[foofighter]

Originally Posted by Dominicg

Yes but they are extremely dangerous.

I'm not sure of the exact kind of battery inside of a prius, but if it is a Li-Poly or Li-Ion, you could be screwed in and accident, or a very serious discharge. I know when a Li-Poly battery loses/discharges to much energy, they simply explode/burst/go up in flames.

Something i will not ride on top of.

i dont think they are lipo packs yet as you stated it's proven to be unstable i believe toyota is using NiMh for their batteries.

[Dominicg]

Originally Posted by boludo

Hybrids are great, but you dont have to go that way for great mileage. VW has some Jettas that get in the high 40s to 50s mpg on diesel. Of course...its a VW. And yes, if you're wondering, my love for VW ends in production year 1967. I still jones for my 66 microbus.

X2 on that.. bud oddly enough i keep ending up with fat chicks..

a 76, and 2 69 bugs.. i cant seem to find a nice pre-67 for the right price

[Bellvis]

Originally Posted by soul rider

yes I know nothing. why get so uptight over a comment about Hummers? I like them too, but I don't own one. I didn't insult your mother.

If I came accross uptight, I apologize. I certainly did not mean to be like that. I just want to get the proper information out there. Hummers have been my passion since I was a child. I have been obssessed with them ever since the first civilian ones came out in 92.

I am just tired of hearing all the bashing on these beautiful machines. I understand that I cannot change the views of how the general public views these vehicles, but I can certainly try.

I feel the same way about Rottweilers. They are considered the second deadliest dog in the world behind the pit bull. I have two rotts that are little flowers who think they are lap dogs. I constantly get dirty looks where ever I take them. If a burglar was to break in they would bring him a rope to play tug with then try to cuddle with him. Just like Hummers, I will always have one in my life.

For those of you who think a H2 and H3 are just Tahoe's and Colorado's, I would like to properly inform you. GM only shared the same specs on their frames. The H2 & H3 frames are much stronger then the similar Tahoe and CO frames. There are maybe a dozen parts that are compatible between them. You cannot fit a H2 on a Tahoe frame and vice versa.

Hope this came off better.

Cheers

[Dominicg]

Originally Posted by foofighter

i dont think they are lipo packs yet as you stated it's proven to be unstable i believe toyota is using NiMh for their batteries.

I'd feel much safer knowing they are powered by NiMh's, or even NiCad's.

[autoduel]

Originally Posted by Dominicg

actually, they have a pretty good crash test rating. The body frame is built like roll cage and will take a lot of force to crush the car itself. but i do not know about the occupants..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s

I hope a hans device comes standard with that car.

[foofighter]

Originally Posted by Dominicg

X2 on that.. bud oddly enough i keep ending up with fat chicks..

a 76, and 2 69 bugs.. i cant seem to find a nice pre-67 for the right price

i saw a SWWEET ass restored black beetle on the side of the fwy this afternoon left on the side of the road as it died...it was an oval window rull restored...trying to remember where i saw it if it was ont he 73 or on 405 going north from 133

Originally Posted by autoduel

I hope a hans device comes standard with that car.

or the entire interior to blow up w/ airbags like running man when u get into accidents.

[BrewMaster]

Originally Posted by Chewyeti

now here is a conundrum....

diesel is in my understanding... less refined ( diesel is like crude oil.. poured over a strainer. LOL ). So why does it cost more?

It contains way more energy than gasoline, and all of europe knows that. Little 1-2L diesel cars that get 50 mpg!

diesel is like crude oil.. poured over a strainer. LOL

why is it so expensive? why dont we have little diesel cars here?

US diesel regulations were revised in 2006 to go to Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel. it went from a 500 ppm limit to 15 ppm limit of sulfur. getting to 15 ppm takes a lot of effort and money in the refining process, hence the jump in diesel prices in late 2006 and 2007.

it has nothing to do with the shipping industry since diesel capacity is no where near maxed out. also, non-highway and marine diesel are still at 500 ppm sulfur.

[foofighter]

Originally Posted by BrewMaster

US diesel regulations were revised in 2006 to go to Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel. it went from a 500 ppm limit to 15 ppm limit of sulfur. getting to 15 ppm takes a lot of effort and money in the refining process, hence the jump in diesel prices in late 2006 and 2007.

it has nothing to do with the shipping industry since diesel capacity is no where near maxed out. also, non-highway and marine diesel are still at 500 ppm sulfur.

thats what they tell us...while coincidentally every quarter the oil companies keep posting RECORD profits...

[BrewMaster]

Originally Posted by Padre

Who's we?

Americans. As prices rise, our consumption is not changing drastically.

[ryandood]

Would I take a slow car for awsome mpg? Hell yes!

I would recommend staying away from hybrids at this time. Like other have said, wait til the technology has been perfected or at least til it's more affordable. The concern with what happens to the batteries when they are dead is another problem. I'd say just get a small, lightweight car with a small engine that gets good mpg.

If it's any consolation my vespa gets 85mpg....

[BrewMaster]

Originally Posted by foofighter

thats what they tell us...while coincidentally every quarter the oil companies keep posting RECORD profits...

I hope they are making record profits. Their product is in record demand; they'd be foolish not to since they aren't running a charity. It's like trying to get a PS3 at Christmas.