$5.20/gallon

[soul rider]

Originally Posted by Bellvis

Ok here we go........

You really think Hummers are that bad at gas?

H1 - Diesel: averages 14-17 depending on tire size
H1 - Gas: averages 9-13 depending on tire size
H2 - Gas: averages 12-15 depending on driving style
H3 - Gas 5 cyl: 15-20 depending on tire size
H3- Alpha V8: 14-18 depending on driving style

Now how about the full size trucks from Ford, Chevy, and Dodge that have V8's. Average 12-15 as well. I wont mention all the lifted trucks that are out there that get under 10 mpg.

What about the full size SUV's: Tahoe, Suburban's, Expedition's, Navigator's, Escalades? 11-14 as well.

What about the V8 Benz's, BMW's, and other exotic luxury cars? Maybe 12mpg?

Dont even get me started on Viper's, Lambo's, and Ferrari's. Under 10 mpg.

Yes, over $5 is a lot of money for gas. If it goes that high in O.C. it will certainly effect me.

I average 13-14 in my Hummer H3 but thats due to my 35" tires, roof rack and light bar.

So the Prius will do over 40mpg. Have you ever researched the cost and damage to the environment that producing those batteries do? The batteries are reported to go bad after 3 years and typically cost $6000 to replace. The plants that make them produce way more toxins then any Hummer will do.

All I ask is that you do some research before bashing Hummer. We already have a bad enough name from opinions of people who know nothing.

This is just one of the many articles about the Prius battery:
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...or-hummer.html

idling at the drive thru 0 mph any vehicle

yes I know nothing. why get so uptight over a comment about Hummers? I like them too, but I don't own one. I didn't insult your mother.

if you can afford a Lambo, Ferarri, or any other exotic vehicle 5.20 is a drop in the bucket.

[ryandood]

Originally Posted by Bellvis

Ok here we go........

You really think Hummers are that bad at gas?

H1 - Diesel: averages 14-17 depending on tire size
H1 - Gas: averages 9-13 depending on tire size
H2 - Gas: averages 12-15 depending on driving style
H3 - Gas 5 cyl: 15-20 depending on tire size
H3- Alpha V8: 14-18 depending on driving style

Now how about the full size trucks from Ford, Chevy, and Dodge that have V8's. Average 12-15 as well. I wont mention all the lifted trucks that are out there that get under 10 mpg.

What about the full size SUV's: Tahoe, Suburban's, Expedition's, Navigator's, Escalades? 11-14 as well.

What about the V8 Benz's, BMW's, and other exotic luxury cars? Maybe 12mpg?

Dont even get me started on Viper's, Lambo's, and Ferrari's. Under 10 mpg.

Yes, over $5 is a lot of money for gas. If it goes that high in O.C. it will certainly effect me.

I average 13-14 in my Hummer H3 but thats due to my 35" tires, roof rack and light bar.

So the Prius will do over 40mpg. Have you ever researched the cost and damage to the environment that producing those batteries do? The batteries are reported to go bad after 3 years and typically cost $6000 to replace. The plants that make them produce way more toxins then any Hummer will do.

All I ask is that you do some research before bashing Hummer. We already have a bad enough name from opinions of people who know nothing.

This is just one of the many articles about the Prius battery:
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...or-hummer.html

Agreed, you made some points that I did not address but have considered in thought. People will bash the hummer just becuase it's such an easy, big target, just like how walmart and starbucks are easy targets as well. Obviously any car that gets poor mileage (sports cars, luxury cars, etc) should be scrutinized just as much as the Hummers but they are often times overlooked.

It is unfair to single out Hummers but try not to take it personally. I guess they sort of act as the representative of all cars that eat through gas, sorry you have to take the heat.

I love pretty much all cars and Hummers are no exception. One of my best experiences was going in a friends Hummer offroading out at Holy Jims. At the same time I think that we are heading down the wrong path with our excessive use of our natural resources. So for me it is a hard decision to compromise between my love of cars and the well being of our surroudings.

[autoduel]

Originally Posted by Bellvis

Ok here we go........

You really think Hummers are that bad at gas?

H1 - Diesel: averages 14-17 depending on tire size
H1 - Gas: averages 9-13 depending on tire size
H2 - Gas: averages 12-15 depending on driving style
H3 - Gas 5 cyl: 15-20 depending on tire size
H3- Alpha V8: 14-18 depending on driving style

Now how about the full size trucks from Ford, Chevy, and Dodge that have V8's. Average 12-15 as well. I wont mention all the lifted trucks that are out there that get under 10 mpg.

What about the full size SUV's: Tahoe, Suburban's, Expedition's, Navigator's, Escalades? 11-14 as well.

What about the V8 Benz's, BMW's, and other exotic luxury cars? Maybe 12mpg?

Dont even get me started on Viper's, Lambo's, and Ferrari's. Under 10 mpg.

Apparently just as bad, but because they were among the first giant gas guzzling SUV's, They became the scapegoat. Being popular with OC soccer moms who never take them off road adds to the negative image.
On the other side of the same coin, you could be driving a honda civic with tinted windows as be viewed negatively as well.
A Hummer would be on my list if I drove off-road often along with the FJ20 which doesn't do much better on gas either.

[roadkillross]

thank god i ride a fixie

[gil_caz]

or we could all just get smart cars

[silverspot]

Originally Posted by ArrrKelly

Oh screw that!

WTF are we blowing up the middle east if we can't get a good deal on gas?

In 2007, 57% of the crude oil imports were from OPEC countries (aka mostly Middle East) and the other 43% were from non-OPEC countries (aka Canada & Mexico).

Out of those OPEC countries, only 6.7% came out of Iraq while 30% came out of Saudi Arabia and 22% came out of Venezuela. Seems to me if we were over there for the oil, we'd be blowing up a different country...

[Dominicg]

i think i spy some unimog under that smart car..

[BFloFoxRider.]

i can see why everyone gets mad about high gas prices and yet many of them still go to starbucks once or twice a day and pay 3-4.50 for a coffee

[jonny nez]

Aren't H2's just Tahoes (motor, frame, etc) with a different body ?

Aren't H3's just Chevy Colorados with a different body?

H1's ar are different story, they are REAL humvees.

Originally Posted by Bellvis

Ok here we go........

You really think Hummers are that bad at gas?

H1 - Diesel: averages 14-17 depending on tire size
H1 - Gas: averages 9-13 depending on tire size
H2 - Gas: averages 12-15 depending on driving style
H3 - Gas 5 cyl: 15-20 depending on tire size
H3- Alpha V8: 14-18 depending on driving style

Now how about the full size trucks from Ford, Chevy, and Dodge that have V8's. Average 12-15 as well. I wont mention all the lifted trucks that are out there that get under 10 mpg.

What about the full size SUV's: Tahoe, Suburban's, Expedition's, Navigator's, Escalades? 11-14 as well.

What about the V8 Benz's, BMW's, and other exotic luxury cars? Maybe 12mpg?

Dont even get me started on Viper's, Lambo's, and Ferrari's. Under 10 mpg.

Yes, over $5 is a lot of money for gas. If it goes that high in O.C. it will certainly effect me.

I average 13-14 in my Hummer H3 but thats due to my 35" tires, roof rack and light bar.

So the Prius will do over 40mpg. Have you ever researched the cost and damage to the environment that producing those batteries do? The batteries are reported to go bad after 3 years and typically cost $6000 to replace. The plants that make them produce way more toxins then any Hummer will do.

All I ask is that you do some research before bashing Hummer. We already have a bad enough name from opinions of people who know nothing.

This is just one of the many articles about the Prius battery:
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...or-hummer.html

[richie_rich]

Originally Posted by fastpassu

im just going to drink redbull and fly everywhere

FYI, Redbull would work out to be about $32 per gallon...not sure what the efficiency of flight time to gallon would be though - could be worth looking into though

[katonk]

Originally Posted by Bellvis

Ok here we go........

You really think Hummers are that bad at gas?

H1 - Diesel: averages 14-17 depending on tire size
H1 - Gas: averages 9-13 depending on tire size
H2 - Gas: averages 12-15 depending on driving style
H3 - Gas 5 cyl: 15-20 depending on tire size
H3- Alpha V8: 14-18 depending on driving style

Now how about the full size trucks from Ford, Chevy, and Dodge that have V8's. Average 12-15 as well. I wont mention all the lifted trucks that are out there that get under 10 mpg.

What about the full size SUV's: Tahoe, Suburban's, Expedition's, Navigator's, Escalades? 11-14 as well.

What about the V8 Benz's, BMW's, and other exotic luxury cars? Maybe 12mpg?

Dont even get me started on Viper's, Lambo's, and Ferrari's. Under 10 mpg.

Good points Bellvis. I guess I never really looked at it that way. Just the same, I don't know of any other car or trunk owners that would brag about 9 MPG.

[gil_caz]

Originally Posted by Dominicg

i think i spy some unimog under that smart car..

very nice, someone knows there gas(diesel) hogs quite well.

[Dominicg]

Originally Posted by gil_caz

very nice, someone knows there gas(diesel) hogs quite well.

yeah.. im a gas guzzling 4x4 nut.

[bighit8]

HUMMER=CHEVY pick-up with a different body.so if you drive a chevy truck???

[drew12]

One reason high mileage cars aren't offered in the US is horspower.
Americans like power, and don't want to drive a 90 hp vehicle.

Would you settle for a slow car to get high mileage?

[davidB]

gas may get more expensive, but i'll still find myself driving to tustin from arcadia to buy another bike or to hunt down a tool or small part no one else has in stock.

whenever this bike gets done, i'm riding it to work. weeeeeee!

[Dominicg]

Originally Posted by drew12

One reason high mileage cars aren't offered in the US is horspower.
Americans like power, and don't want to drive a 90 hp vehicle.

Would you settle for a slow car to get high mileage?

Personally i would hate something that couldn't get out of its own way.

My old 76' 60hp bug got 32 mpg city (never ever took it onto a freeway, kind of scary). Could not get out of its own way.

I need power. This is why im shopping for a dual sport dirt bike right now, so i can have some power, but still get great mileage.

[Collette]

Originally Posted by drew12

One reason high mileage cars aren't offered in the US is horspower.
Americans like power, and don't want to drive a 90 hp vehicle.

Would you settle for a slow car to get high mileage?

Yes.

Thank God I sold my FJ and got a 4-banger.

[mtbmichael]

no mention of Japanese SUV's anywhere.

my 4 runner gets about 20 mpg, on the other hand, my uncle's LX gets about 12/13, but thats with some mods.