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Old 03-04-2008, 05:50 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I tell you what, you shold see how much taxes are taken out of my check every two weeks oh and BTW I don't qualify for that 600 tax break. I have no home to write off nor any kids. So I do my service every two weeks by the State and Feds taking almost 1/2 of my money.
there are a lot of things to gripe about with regard to taxes and how they are spent... but jury duty has nothing to do with it. I don't see how you connect those dots.



I was being sarcastic earlier... everyone should just imagine for a second being wrongly accused of something, and looking over at a box full of morons deciding your fate. Say hi to No-Lube Bubba
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:58 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Like some have said Jury duty is a civic duty. Do it or get out of it. If you get out of it then you don't get to bitch about the O.J. verdict.

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Old 03-04-2008, 05:59 PM   #43 (permalink)
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wow things are getting pretty harsh in here, I was only responding to what it would take to drop some smelly stuff...

I'd LOOOOVE to be called for jury duty, I think it would be fascinating (in both the sense of discerning what is involved in the courtroom process and in terms of people watching) but I may be a bit biased since as a city employee you get full pay for it... still would be interesting though.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:07 PM   #44 (permalink)
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wow things are getting pretty harsh in here, I was only responding to what it would take to drop some smelly stuff...
Your smelly tactics could still be used as pure humor and should not be ignored
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:12 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I agree that serving jury duty is a civic responsibility. The true purpose of the jury is to not only judge whether or not the defendant is innocent or guilty under the law, but also to judge whether or not the law itself is just. It is yet another check and balance to government power built into the constitution.

This concept is sometimes referred to as jury nullification
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

However, modern courts have come to despise the concept of the people actually judging the correctness of the law. In 2001 the CA supreme court essentially ruled the concept of jury nulification illegal

http://homepage.smc.edu/sindell_steven/AJ3%20Folder/Currentevents/aj3.jury.nullific.html

So if you want an easy way out of jury duty, during panel selection one of the attorneys or judge will ask something along the lines "can you follow jury instructions and render a verdict of guilt or innocence based on the law". If you answer that question "NO, I believe it is every citizen's right to judge the correctness of the law in addition to the guilt or innocence of the defendant" you will be dismissed so fast your head will spin.

If you want to be a total ass, bring it up as a question to the judge doing the jury orientation in the morning. That way you've "poisoned" the whole jury pool for the day.

If you want to serve on a jury and actually employ jury nullification, if appropriate, (say you believe mary-jane ought to be legal) you need to keep the fact that you are judging the law to yourself. During deliberations, keep voting innocent and insisting that you do not see enough evidence to convict. If it comes out that you are judging the law, the other jurors can have the judge remove you from the panel and replaced with an alternate.

There is a cute saying that sums up the basic tennants of liberty:

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and the cartridge box.
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Intelligent, educated citizens serving on juries is a critical link in maintaining our society.

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Old 03-04-2008, 10:17 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Fiance was bitching about his notice, until he found out that work pays for two weeks duty. Now it's not such a big deal, hmmm


Oh, and being a full-time student has it's privileges.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:29 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Wow. Being immune from jury duty kicks @$$!! Not trying to brag, but reading all this makes me appreciate it more now.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:32 PM   #48 (permalink)
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what's with everyone getting jury duty right now???

I'm on call this week too... seems like everyone has had it lately
Funny, I just checked in Riverside County yesterday and was not selected . There were a total of 901 jurors yesterday. They said their record at one point several years ago was 1700 people in one day

Yesterday I checked in @ 8:30am. They told a bunch of us to come back @ 11:00am. Came back, sat around for 30 mins...lunch break - come back at 1:25pm. From here on out groups of 100s were getting called for the questionaire. This was how they randomly selected people... long process but fortunately for me I must have answered something right on the questionaire that they didnt select me

Interesting thing about this is I have an LA County address on my DL cause I used to live w/my sister. So the Jury Notice goes to her address and I've always gone to court advising them that I dont live in the county. This year I received one for Compton, same deal I appeared in the jury room, told them I dont live in LA county and I got out of it. Ironically when I got home there was a notice from Riverside Cnty for yesterday... All good, as I'm done for this year...
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:34 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Wow. Being immune from jury duty kicks @$$!! Not trying to brag, but reading all this makes me appreciate it more now.
how's that?
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:42 PM   #50 (permalink)
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how's that?

He's an old, grumpy, bitter individual who thinks everyone's guilty until proven so.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:47 PM   #51 (permalink)
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He's an old, grumpy, bitter individual who thinks everyone's guilty until proven so.

HA!
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:49 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Eat lot's of Kashi products! And FiberOne Bars (they actually taste REALLY good) and the SECRET WEAPON (seriously the US Military should consider investing in some): Ham and Bean Soup!
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Old 03-05-2008, 06:27 AM   #53 (permalink)
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He's an old, grumpy, bitter individual who thinks everyone's guilty until proven so.
I work for the govt. My job precludes me from serving.
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Old 03-05-2008, 06:59 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I usually don't mind jury duty. Last case I was on, we sometimes got to show up after 8, had extended lunches and got released by 3. Luckily Westminster court is only a few blocks away from my house and Santa Ana Superior isn't too bad.

Glad I don't live in LA County anymore. Going to downtown LA for court sucked.

I work for the Feds too, but doesn't automatically excuse me.
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:02 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I work for the govt. My job precludes me from serving.
Oh, I thought it was that string of felony convictions you had...






just kidding...
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:47 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Don't bust me Bro
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:23 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Don't bust me Bro
I wish I could just do the dang thing online
Last nights game was great!

Kobe is the best player on the planet.......period.

Back on topic.

FYM jury duty is your responsabilty as a Merican.

I can talk smack now because I am good for another two years
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