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Old 02-27-2008, 01:08 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Wow....the whole reason why I nearly married twice and backed out!! I always run into chics that say something along the lines of, "I never had the chance to live out my 20s" I have never met you or your wife so I can't be cynical or abrasive in anyway because it's simply not fair. What I do recommend is if you are having problems, seek a marriage/family counselor at once! Get these issues on the table first and see if you can work them out. For me personally, I would never marry a girl that can't be honest and straight forward with me in regards to everything. Communication is KEY!!

I guess that's why I love riding so much. I don't hear any whining or complaining, my bike doesn't talk back, but it will bite me back if I ride her incorrectly.
I'll second just about everything said above. The living out the 20's part is a tricky thing. My wife and I both agree that if we had to do it all over again we wouldn't. We both love each other but getting married before 25 is just to young. (I was 19 and she was 20 when we got married) I didn't know who I was, what I wanted in life or where I was going. Neither did she. So from a point of view I was trying to live out my late teens and early twenties by club hopping and what not at 26/7 when all of our problems happened. The problem, I was too selfish to think about anyone but myself. The divorce papers were on the table when we found out she was pregnant (never mix alcohol and sex...in my case we got twins!) That started me thinking and started me on the path to putting my selfishness away.

We end up in long term relationships taking the other person for granted and that's when we get into problems. Gotta think about the other side if a marriage is to succeed.
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:13 PM   #62 (permalink)
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This thread reminded me of Dell's signature: "Where did the mountain bike forum go?" lol
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:46 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I'll second just about everything said above. The living out the 20's part is a tricky thing. My wife and I both agree that if we had to do it all over again we wouldn't. We both love each other but getting married before 25 is just to young. (I was 19 and she was 20 when we got married) I didn't know who I was, what I wanted in life or where I was going. Neither did she. So from a point of view I was trying to live out my late teens and early twenties by club hopping and what not at 26/7 when all of our problems happened. The problem, I was too selfish to think about anyone but myself. The divorce papers were on the table when we found out she was pregnant (never mix alcohol and sex...in my case we got twins!) That started me thinking and started me on the path to putting my selfishness away.

We end up in long term relationships taking the other person for granted and that's when we get into problems. Gotta think about the other side if a marriage is to succeed.
Dang doood Twins!!!! You got a couple past the goalie almost scored a hat trick . I am sure your kids are your life but man I don't know what I would do if I had twins . I know one thing for sure I would head down to the clinic and get clipped.
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:51 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I'll second just about everything said above. The living out the 20's part is a tricky thing. My wife and I both agree that if we had to do it all over again we wouldn't. We both love each other but getting married before 25 is just to young. (I was 19 and she was 20 when we got married) I didn't know who I was, what I wanted in life or where I was going. Neither did she. So from a point of view I was trying to live out my late teens and early twenties by club hopping and what not at 26/7 when all of our problems happened. The problem, I was too selfish to think about anyone but myself. The divorce papers were on the table when we found out she was pregnant (never mix alcohol and sex...in my case we got twins!) That started me thinking and started me on the path to putting my selfishness away.

We end up in long term relationships taking the other person for granted and that's when we get into problems. Gotta think about the other side if a marriage is to succeed.
Waited until I was 27 before getting married. My wife and I waited another 5 years before having kids. It was the best thing "for me".
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:27 PM   #65 (permalink)
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speaking of cougers I drive by foxfire in anahiem hills every morning that place is the cougers den. 50 years old up top plastic and 20 from the nose down
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:37 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:06 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I've been married 28 years and never wanted to flirt with another woman. If you really love the woman you married then there is no need.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:28 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I'm going on ten years married. From skimming this thread, I feel like one of the lucky ones. My wife's great. BUT I can't say that I've never wanted to flirt with another woman. I just imagine what might happen if I open that door. It's not worth the possible chaos, pain and loss that could occur, especially since I've got two kids. So for me, I'll pass on the flirting.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:40 PM   #69 (permalink)
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To each their own - Some of you view flirting as a gateway to something more, others don't.

Do what's best for you and yours and you're golden.

I myself am off to flirt with the new 22 year old admin for my VP.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:41 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I was just curious as to how people felt. Im gonna have my wife tell her friend some of this stuff and see what happens.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:59 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I was just curious as to how people felt. Im gonna have my wife tell her friend some of this stuff and see what happens.
"Bad sh1t happens to people who do bad sh1t." Didn't you answer your own question with that statement? People with common sense, a true, genuine love for their spouse, and respect for their wedding vows, do not flirt and/or pretend to be single with the opposite sex...got it?
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:26 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Dang doood Twins!!!! You got a couple past the goalie almost scored a hat trick . I am sure your kids are your life but man I don't know what I would do if I had twins . I know one thing for sure I would head down to the clinic and get clipped.

LOL I felt the same way when I found out, I still can't remember much of the day after I heard "You're having twins!" To add to the 'collection' I have a sone who will be one next month. My kids are my life!
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:57 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Well, what is flirting? Everybody has a different conception of what it is. Taking off your wedding ring to talk to guys is an obvious case of flirting. Being friendly to someone of the opposite sex? Smiling at someone of the opposite sex? Joking with someone of the opposite sex? And c'mon - women flirt with each other. Maybe men even flirt. Depends on how you define flirtation. Teasing? Touching? Gazing into one another's eyes? What is it?
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Wear a flesh colored wedding band. You can keep your vows and flirt at the same time.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:29 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:01 PM   #76 (permalink)
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My wife and I are both just naturally outgoing...and flirty. We knew this about each other when we said, "I do." It has never once caused an issue, because we look at the intent rather than automatically demonizing the action. Out to have a good time is completely different than out to have a fling, though they may look exactly the same to the casual observer.

On a guys' weekend in San Diego this summer, one of my buddies was pleading with us not to tell his g/f that he was smiling at some woman at the bar and "feeling some serious vibes" (his words). Meanwhile, I was not only smiling & "vibing" (god, what a stupid word), I was out dancing with anyone that was willing to put up with my uncoordinated ass (with wife's complete blessing & encouragement). It's amazing the kind of fun you can have when you're not just out to "get some".

Ya'll can call it an insecure need for validation if you like, but I simply cannot pass up a good time.



And for what it's worth, I was never approached by women when I was single. Now that I have a ring on my finger, I'm suddenly not invisible to the opposite sex. "Like, oh my god, it's soooo coooool that you and your wife have that level of trust!" I just shake my head & keep dancing. If nothing else, I help them fend off the horn-dogs for a few hours.

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if i am breathing you can be pretty sure i will flirt.

allison knew this about me long before we got married. i love her to death and wouldn't do anything to hurt our marriage. the only time i don't have my ring on is when i accidentally leave it next to the sink after washing my hands.

marriage is about a lot of things, but if you can't trust your spouse around people of the opposite sex (or in Edogs case, the same sex) then you shouldn't be married. I trust allison 100%, i think she trusts me too.

nothing wrong with flirting IMO. my rule is look, but don't touch! (uhhh... massaging doesn't count right? )

It's so much better when someone says what I was trying to say, but in a much more succinct way.

Been a long-winded blowhard all my life though. Not much chance of changing at this point!
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