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Old 02-19-2008, 09:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Did anybody here about this? A new book out on how to train men like animals so they are obedient.What do you think?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/25/fa...erland&emc=rss
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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what would happen if the "trained" man got left home alone and the wife went on vacation and forgot to get fed?
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I thought men were already regarded as animals. So what's new?...
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well!!!!
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Crap, who told them about this!?!?

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Old 02-19-2008, 10:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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And women wonder why people like Tom Leykis are popular with the modern male. (personally I think he is an ass and a hypocrite but I'll save that for another rant)

Personally, I agree with her example of positive re-inforcement as that is helpful in any marrage. But before she decided to mold her husband into her own (flawed) image perhaps she should have communicated to him rather than resort to Pavlovian parlor tricks.

Personally I think she is a manipulative b!tch and I hope that, like shamu or other trained animals past (linky: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../trainers.html) , her "pet" turns on her and rips her to shreds. Her passing this drivel off as a marrage manual further proves how little evolved we truly are. We as humans are supposed to be intelligent, reasoning and communicative but apparently though we (humans) can create a movie that realistically portrays Sparta, 18th century England, or a human-robot war; we cannot tell our mate not to crowd us in the kitchen.

Pathetic
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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And women wonder why people like Tom Leykis are popular with the modern male.

Personally, I agree with her example of positive re-inforcement as that is helpful in any marrage. But before she decided to mold her husband into her own (flawed) image perhaps she should have communicated to him rather than resort to Pavlovian parlor tricks.

Personally I think she is a manipulative b!tch and I hope that, like shamu or other trained animals past, her "pet" turns on her and rips her to shreds.
You took the words out of my mouth. Most women are to quick to find the perfect man and get married.This is why they try to change you. Spend time with you're mate and get to know them, there is no rush. As a man once you commit, you have given up half of all you work for.Like is said most women, not all! Just to explain before the bashing may begin.
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Old 02-19-2008, 11:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If she ever succeeded in "training" her man then she should not be so proud in call him her "man". Especially if he is stupid enough to fall for her tricks. The quality of her shamu..I mean "man" is a great reflection of her intelligence(Hi everyone...this is my Shamu and he does neat tricks).

It's a lot easier and cheaper to just get a dog, shamu needs a huge tank......IT'S BACON!!!!!!!!

What comes around goes around, that's all I got to say.


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And women wonder why people like Tom Leykis are popular with the modern male. (personally I think he is an ass and a hypocrite but I'll save that for another rant)

Personally, I agree with her example of positive re-inforcement as that is helpful in any marrage. But before she decided to mold her husband into her own (flawed) image perhaps she should have communicated to him rather than resort to Pavlovian parlor tricks.

Personally I think she is a manipulative b!tch and I hope that, like shamu or other trained animals past (linky: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../trainers.html) , her "pet" turns on her and rips her to shreds. Her passing this drivel off as a marrage manual further proves how little evolved we truly are. We as humans are supposed to be intelligent, reasoning and communicative but apparently though we (humans) can create a movie that realistically portrays Sparta, 18th century England, or a human-robot war; we cannot tell our mate not to crowd us in the kitchen.

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Old 02-19-2008, 11:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I will chime in on this more tomorrow, off to bed. Good Night all.
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I don't understand how a woman could be attracted to a man who is so easily manipulated! If I can "train" a guy, I can guarantee you I will be absolutely bored with him very soon. I like guys who are exactly who they are and if I don't like some aspects of his personality I accept it or move on...
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You guys were not paying attension she stopped nagging , thats a good thing
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You guys were not paying attension she stopped nagging , thats a good thing
Seriously...call me Shamu if that's alll it takes.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah just saw the last part.....she finally learned what's being ignored means. I bet he was ignoring her the whole time...she just finally realizing it, that's all.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Shamu has attacked the trainers from time to time.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:09 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You took the words out of my mouth. Most women are to quick to find the perfect man and get married.This is why they try to change you. Spend time with you're mate and get to know them, there is no rush. As a man once you commit, you have given up half of all you work for.Like is said most women, not all! Just to explain before the bashing may begin.
Wait, who's bashing whom here? That's a pretty strong statement up there.

Just sayin'..

ps: if it makes you feel any better, the "trainer" in our household isn't me - I'm the one stomping around looking for the keys while al keeps quiet and puts me on ignore. So much for gender generalizations
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:09 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This from the man who built a full XTR spec bike and didn't tell his wife for a month...

I agree with Chris though, communication is much more effective than training tricks. Positive reinforcement is a form of communication even if it is non-verbal at times.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:10 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:18 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't understand how a woman could be attracted to a man who is so easily manipulated! If I can "train" a guy, I can guarantee you I will be absolutely bored with him very soon. I like guys who are exactly who they are and if I don't like some aspects of his personality I accept it or move on...

U must be single b/c most of the woman out there look for this type of guy to marry ASAP!! but dont take me wrong!! I agree with you 100% same goes for me!!! I would be bored real quick if the Girl friend was that way too!! I have a problem with fake people so I try to stay away as much possible from that crowd!!
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:33 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I think her main problem was that she shifted the blame on him. I only scanned the article, but she sounds like she was terribly picky--I mean, nagging him about when to shave and such? She seems to have grown to appreciate the little things he does (and called in positive reinforcement); isn't any relationship better with a little appreciation? She should recognize that the communication and appreciation issue is two sided and doesn't need training like Shamu...after all, not everyone likes fish

That being said, I would hate to be with someone and think that the relationship would be better if only he would change himself, or have him think that of me. I totally agree with " I like guys who are exactly who they are and if I don't like some aspects of his personality I accept it or move on..."

Just my $0.01, someday it will be worth a whole $0.02
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