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Old 02-13-2008, 07:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Fox, Coyote, Do they attack humans?

I'd ask because my friend and I were at Vail Lake today in the afternoon, at about 3/4 mile out on the trail we saw a pack of coyote or fox, 6 of them. They seem to know our presence and start charging towards us or running towards the trail to ambush us as soon as we get there. so we head back in a hurry luckily its a descending trail.
Do they look at humans as prey?

Sorry this is the best picture i can come up with.

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Old 02-13-2008, 07:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's pretty crazy!

A google search brought up this link that has stats and whatnot.

http://www.mountainbike-magazin.de/s...jpg.540643.jpg
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I had an incidence in Marshall Canyon where I surprised a coyote. I yelled at the coyote and he didn't flinch, finished peeing and walked to the side of a flat area. I approached the mound/jump he had went behind and thought he would just run out of the way and crested the top to see him staring right at me. He moved slightly and whirled around and came at my ankle as I passed. I started to step off the bike to put it between me and him and he stopped and slowly walked off. I think it was more me surprising him and feeling threatened rather than choosing to come after me. I have never seen a coyote come after a person, a dog or other animal, but never a person and I've grown up with them in the foothills. I was scared.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have never experienced a pack of 6 coyotes. I only experienced 1-3 coyotes, but they always get scared when I approach them. I have never heard adults getting attached, only small kids and dogs.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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it seems they got some puppies that is why they are attacking. But i could tell they're full sized canine from that distance. They're not playing because the way they're going , in line and going on one direction, towards us. Its scary but i guess we are the ones playing on their turf, who knows what could happen if we continue ride the trail.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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everytime i see a coyote, it books it. as do the bears. oak glen bears are different i guess, they are the only ones ive had the pleasure of meeting. i love raccoons, i fed one some mcD's french fries about a month ago...
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i love raccoons, i fed one some mcD's french fries about a month ago...
....Careful with that, it could be disasterous!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtH4Q6T-4hM
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I too had a run in with coyotes at Marshall Canyon. I had always seen them run from me and had never seen one stand its ground. One day as I was riding alone I came up on a couple of them a few feet off the singletrack so I stopped to watch them for a bit. As I'm watching them , one of them is walking or inching up to me closer and closer. I look to see where the others are then I notice there is a total of five of them and everyone one of them is watching me. I'd never really noticed their yellow eyes till then. Very unnerving. I turned to get back on the bike and one had managed to get all the way up along side my rear tire. When I lifted my leg I spooked him and when he jumped so did the others, but they didn't really back off. I went ahead and started to pedal then I watched as they fell in behind me and followed me till I came up to a horseback rider. The lady riding the horse asked me if I knew there were some coyotes behind me and I told her what had just happened. By now they had melted away, and it was over. Still weird and I never really felt threatened, but I do wonder if they would of attacked.
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I ride El Moro and Laguna Wilderness Parks at dusk a couple times a week. The coyotes have very little fear of people around here. They leisurely walk across the fireroad in front of me, stop and stare at me. I am not use to them being that at ease around people. From where I come from (Mendocino County) if you happen upon one they fall all over themselves trying to get away. Coyotes’ are opportunistic predators and not to be trusted. Will they attack…I don’t think so, will they finish you off if you are lying there unconscious after an OTB…yep!

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Old 02-13-2008, 08:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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We have groups of Coyotes at both golf courses I work at. No reported attacks in the 40+ years they have been open.
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I was pushing up at Fontana one day by myself and looked to my left and a coyote was just sitting there looking at me not 15 feet away. We just looked at each other for over a minute. when I started pushing up again, it just trotted off. Not alarmed at all. Beautiful creature.
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I yelled at the coyote and he didn't flinch, finished peeing and walked to the side of a flat area. I approached the mound/jump he had went behind and thought he would just run out of the way and crested the top to see him staring right at me.
That seems pretty territorial to me. Makes me wonder if there wasn't a fresh kill or a young litter that he was protecting.

I've had a couple encounters where individual coyotes didn't shy away, but those weren't scary. If I ran in to a pack of them though, I'd have second thoughts!
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I've been running on the trails at El Moro and have coyotes either a ways in front of me or behind me but not threatening, just cruising along and I'm ok with it. I read somewhere that as long as they're moving and not letting you get too close to them, they're still wary and that's what you want. It's when they turn around and face you to stand their ground that it becomes a standoff for territory and that's when you should be more careful. That's only happened once and when I made a loud noise ffft, yah! and waved my arms he took off for the brush.

I have no problems seeing them out there, actually look for them all the time. I'd rather see them than the crazy looking two legged one's...
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Never run into a pack, but if it's just one they will either run away or we had one at Daley that just stood off the pavement and watched us go by.

FWIW, at Southridge last weekend I was sitting up top waiting for my race run when the guy broke his wrist. The ambulance wailing made a big group of coyotes start howling. It was weird. Never have seen one out there, but there were quite a few!
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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There have been reports of Coyote attacks here in Long Beach at El Dorado Park. My recollection is that they all involved people walking dogs in the early AM. I've seen them when I ride my bike there at around sunrise. When I first saw them I was surprised how small they where. I thought they where foxes at first.
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
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about two weeks ago when i was riding my daily fullerton loop ride i encountered a coyote just below the dam area after the single-tracks. i stopped just 10ft. away from it. at first it didn't even flinch. i wasn't nervous at all and it seemed neither was the coyote. i stood there looking into its eyes as it did the same to me. felt like we had a mutual understanding he slowly walked off in one direction and i continued finishing off the loop. both the coyote and i looked back at each other a few more times as we were parting but it was quite an experience running into a wild animal as they are definitely not the same as domesticated pets. the funny thing was at that moment i've never experienced such a moment of clarity and serene...as weird as it sounds. starring into its eyes must have had a physiological effect on me. it's not everyday you encounter the wonders of nature in such a fashion.
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I would seriously doubt that a coyote would go after an adult, even in a pack.
Small child or pet - sure. You or me - nah.
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:11 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Man you really need to watch out for Badgers, those F**kers are savage! Lost many a good man to a Badger attack.
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I watched a badger tear apart a deer in UT freakin amazing I would never mess with one.

Coyotes running 6 strong is reall really rare they are usallty loners or run in pairs are you sure they were not feral dogs. I would have love to see it if they ran that big. Coyote attacks are rare adults are seem as there predator and they flee at the first chance up to 43 mph at that. If one is cornered or hurt an attack could happen. They have been known to attack small children a large male just had to be put down (blown away) while I was up in the dessert monday because he had gotten used to stealing tiger food and was danger to my friends small children. Also as I told surly they will eat your medium to small dogs, cats, birds, ferrets etc . I deal with coyotes on almost a daily basis at work and my mom has what we beleieve is a coy dog.


O yeah and that pic is a coyote, foxes are almost never seen in daylight and way way smaller then that.
On another note IF ANYONE in the OC/IE has a snake they need removed you can give me a call nine 5 one eight 3 3 five 1 nine 4 , the season is coming up and I hate to see rattlesnakes and miss identified snakes killed the benefits of 1 rattlesnake out weigh the drawbacks of a huge rodent population.
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