chumba xcl vs. titus motolite

[Dino Brown]

Originally Posted by Mudman

whats a gravity ride? I havent been here long enough to know.

A gravity ride is where we get shuttled up to (let's say)... The San Gabriel's or Chiquito and let gravity help us down. 10 miles... 15 miles... 20 miles..... usually some pedaling and climbing. Mostly descending though.

XCL......

[roadkillross]

XCL is the way to be

[RacinJason]

The XCL has been many years in the making lets just say more than 10. It has just recently hit the market.
Up to this day we have not had one break. Yes it is true all bikes have a threshold. We have challenged people and still only come back with broken crank arms and bars. Those rider are professionals. We are in no way responsible for the misusing of our bikes in any way. You must ride at your own risk we do not take responsibility for the actions of the riders in any way shape or form. We have had 100% customer satisfaction.
That is not a guaranteed that is a fact.
However I do see your point and It is valid I just get a little Quick on the keys and I should look closer at what I type in here.
Sometimes I get to comfortable in this forum because I know most of the people. It's like a big family.
No hard feelings High 5 Now go ride because I cant right now.

I went to the Dr today and they have to get an approval for a MRI then it has to get scheduled.
Only then I will know whats up . This is taking to long I need to ride. I think I need MR Meogi to bust a karate kid fix on my shoulder.

Originally Posted by Chaos

Look Jason, it's all good man. I am not trying to be a smarta$$, I was just initially trying to point out that your claims of frame strength no matter how strong and durable you might, your computer test might, or test riders might think it is, there will ALWAYS be a failure sometime or another. Take the case of my Turder Highline... how long did it take DT to finally come out with it? after years of designing, tweaking and testing I think it was nearly 3-4[??] years before it made production in 2006? Only to find that the chainstays were somewhat underbuilt for the gnarliest of riders??? Not once but twice?? So now we're on v3... errr v2.5 of the Highline chainstays! So take it in stride... the frame will break.
peace
-Rodel
here's to hoping my chainstays stay intact this weekend.

Again sorry for the threadjack.

I still need to get you an F5. I hope we get the shipment before you leave. I am working on the Build kit for it also. Your mavic Wheel set is just going to have to stay on the EVO. I like those wheels too.

This will help you get one built up.
Keep in touch.

Originally Posted by roadkillross

hopefully early sept on account i leave for oregon on the 20th. thinking about doin a mammoth ride. mabe then?? it me too trsut me ive been gravity bike free for about 5 months

[Mudman]

would the XCL do okay on these Gravity rides? Or would I need to get a nice new bike? Come on give me an excuse to buy one!

Maybe a Chumba F5, Foes "the fly", or Yeti ASX?

[J_Sims]

Originally Posted by Mudman

would the XCL do okay on these Gravity rides? Or would I need to get a nice new bike? Come on give me an excuse to buy one!

Maybe a Chumba F5, Foes "the fly", or Yeti ASX?

Excuse given Step up Iron Horse SUNDAY


[SIZE=1]Oh yeah the XCL will get you by until you get the new bike though[/SIZE]

[guero]

Originally Posted by Dino Brown

Trust yourself. Ask questions! Swap bikes on the trail!

Join a STR group ride- you can pedal around as many bikes as you want!

probably the best advice around so far.

[J_Sims]

Originally Posted by guero

probably the best advice around so far.

That is where this whole thread started.... 4 PAGES AGO! it has finally come full circle... so go ride some bikes Please

[guero]

Originally Posted by ChumbaJason

This guy who just picked up a small XCL was riding a Santa cruz Huckler.
He was saying the rear end was falling apart. He has tried a Bullet also he said it was to heavy and he was looking to make a more BMX style jump bike.
The heckler is light but it flexes a lot and the pivot bolts break. Not good

jason, just curious. how big was this guy going on his heckler? i never felt any flex in mine, biggest drops i did were 5 feet to a nice tranny, never to flat. i would charge tech chunky sections, rail turns, etc...never had an issue with my huckler...maybe the one the guy had was a lemon...but i dont see how the rear end on a huckler could fall apart...that design has been long standing and proven throughout the years...time will tell if the xcl's will have the same outstanding track record that the hucklers have EARNED themselves over the years.

[Dino Brown]

Originally Posted by Mudman

would the XCL do okay on these Gravity rides?

The way your X-C-L is set-up... shouldn't be a problem at all!

[Waldo]

Originally Posted by ChumbaJason

Yes it is true all bikes have a threshold. We have challenged people and still only come back with broken crank arms and bars.

Jason, I think you need to seriously reconsider this statement. You have just admitted on the record that you expect a bike to break and yet you are still inviting people to use your product beyond its known limits and in a way that exposes said user to bodily harm. You are begging for a lawsuit.

Now in exchange for pointing this out to you and likely sparing Chumba a significant legal action, I will settle for an XCL in ano gray with an RP23. Since you're a good guy and an STR supporter, I'll finish the rest of the bike myself (but if you feel the need to go the extra mile, a TALAS and some Crossmaxs would do nicely)

Nice working with you

[Mudman]

Originally Posted by Waldo

Jason, I think you need to seriously reconsider this statement. You have just admitted on the record that you expect a bike to break and yet you are still inviting people to use your product beyond its known limits and in a way that exposes said user to bodily harm. You are begging for a lawsuit.

Now in exchange for pointing this out to you and likely sparing Chumba a significant legal action, I will settle for an XCL in ano gray with an RP23. Since you're a good guy and an STR supporter, I'll finish the rest of the bike myself (but if you feel the need to go the extra mile, a TALAS and some Crossmaxs would do nicely)

Nice working with you

haha you are a madman! I'll be working on breaking the bike as I get better, Lets see if this unbreakable bike is covered by warranty. Because this would technicaly fall under manufacturer defect.

I think Jason just has a very very high confidence in his bikes. But ANYTHING can be broken, although I have yet to crush a diamond with my bare hands. Jason is a good man! his noodle arm is just holding him back thats all.

[RacinJason]

The guys that where Challenged where pro's.
We do not encourage riding over your head.
We also do not take responsibility for injury or anything related while Riding this bike for anything other than what it was intended for.

And yes I can hook you up just give me a call.

Originally Posted by Waldo

Jason, I think you need to seriously reconsider this statement. You have just admitted on the record that you expect a bike to break and yet you are still inviting people to use your product beyond its known limits and in a way that exposes said user to bodily harm. You are begging for a lawsuit.

Now in exchange for pointing this out to you and likely sparing Chumba a significant legal action, I will settle for an XCL in ano gray with an RP23. Since you're a good guy and an STR supporter, I'll finish the rest of the bike myself (but if you feel the need to go the extra mile, a TALAS and some Crossmaxs would do nicely)

Nice working with you

[Dino Brown]

Originally Posted by ChumbaJason

... And yes I can hook you up just give me a call.

DON'T BELIEVE HIM!!!

I asked him to hook me up with the "BLACK BIKE" sitting in his garage.... It's STILL in his garage

[RacinJason]

Be careful your body has no warrentee you will break before the bike will. You just need to trust me on that one. Hurry up you have 2 years to learn how to break it.
If you break it because you neglected it by letting the frame get dents in the tubes or used a pressure washer and blasted the dust covers off the bearing
That will not fall under warrentee.
Same thing goes for taking a hammer to it or letting water into the frame. Anything that falls under general misuse is not covered. The build kit has the Shimano warrentee. Or the Sram warrentee depending one what build you get.
All I have to say is if the 300 lb free riders that I have been talking to have not had any problems then you shouldn't.

Originally Posted by Mudman

haha you are a madman! I'll be working on breaking the bike as I get better, Lets see if this unbreakable bike is covered by warranty. Because this would technicaly fall under manufacturer defect.

I think Jason just has a very very high confidence in his bikes. But ANYTHING can be broken, although I have yet to crush a diamond with my bare hands. Jason is a good man! his noodle arm is just holding him back thats all.

That bike is not for sale.

Originally Posted by Dino Brown

DON'T BELIEVE HIM!!!

I asked him to hook me up with the "BLACK BIKE" sitting in his garage.... It's STILL in his garage

Remind me to bring a sack lunch the day you think you are going to break that frame and I will be there with a cooler and some sandwiches. ha ha Because it will take a while if not forever.

Remember the old slogan? ((Ride hard take chances)) lol

[Mudman]

Originally Posted by ChumbaJason

Be careful your body has no warrentee you will break before the bike will. You just need to trust me on that one. Hurry up you have 2 years to learn how to break it.
If you break it because you neglected it by letting the frame get dents in the tubes or used a pressure washer and blasted the dust covers off the bearing
That will not fall under warrentee.
Same thing goes for taking a hammer to it or letting water into the frame. Anything that falls under general misuse is not covered. The build kit has the Shimano warrentee. Or the Sram warrentee depending one what build you get.
All I have to say is if the 300 lb free riders that I have been talking to have not had any problems then you shouldn't.

there's 300lb freeriders riding XCL's???? are these football players or something?

[RacinJason]

Maybe they do Sumo not everyone is 150 lbs . Larger riders have been attracted to the XCL because of strength. It seems like most of them have been from NY and Jersey. I think it is cool that they can rip it up still.
I bet some of th big guys can out ride me.
Who knows.

Originally Posted by Mudman

there's 300lb freeriders riding XCL's???? are these football players or something?

[guero]

i think jSims had a great point, this thread has come full circle....locked.