Avid Juicy 7 - Problem

[cjwally]

Hey STR...I just pimped out my Niner last night with some Juicy 7's from my FS since I don't ride it anymore. Problem is that they just don't have the power and grab that I was used to when they were new... They are a little over a year old and have approx. 1500-2000 miles on them. What should I do?

[allison]

Have you done a bleed on them at all?

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by allison

Have you done a bleed on them at all?

Nope. . I guess now is the time to learn. Any tips?

[2wheel_lee]

The pads or rotors may have become contaminated over time. Clean the rotors with rubbing alcohol, and maybe even sand them down to make them like new, then replace the pads.

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

The pads or rotors may have become contaminated over time. Clean the rotors with rubbing alcohol, and maybe even sand them down to make them like new, then replace the pads.

I will do that 2night! Thanks br0!

[HUGH]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

The pads or rotors may have become contaminated over time. Clean the rotors with rubbing alcohol, and maybe even sand them down to make them like new, then replace the pads.

I'm with Lee on this one. You could even sand the pads on a flat surface if there is alot of material left on them. Sometimes the pads get a glaze on them.

HUGH

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by cjwally

Hey STR...I just pimped out my Niner last night with some Juicy 7's from my FS since I don't ride it anymore. Problem is that they just don't have the power and grab that I was used to when they were new... They are a little over a year old and have approx. 1500-2000 miles on them. What should I do?

mushy?

[allison]

Originally Posted by cjwally

Nope. . I guess now is the time to learn. Any tips?

Put bike on rack. Drive to the Path. Leave bike. Pick it up and pay $$. Brakes work.

I have Justin, so I that's the only advice I can offer

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by allison

Put bike on rack. Drive to the Path. Leave bike. Pick it up and pay $$. Brakes work.

I have Justin, so I that's the only advice I can offer

Don't make hubby wrench on your bike


insert Yoda voice:
"Don't try...do or do not"

[allison]

Originally Posted by DeeZee

Don't make hubby wrench on your bike


insert Yoda voice:
"Don't try...do or do not"

Okay.. as soon as he stops "making me" do laundry, cook, clean, etc etc.

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by allison

Okay.. as soon as he stops "making me" do laundry, cook, clean, etc etc.

never mind

[allison]

Originally Posted by DeeZee

never mind

Back on topic...

Wally - if the good advice provided doesn't work, get a bleed kit. You can probably call Justin to walk you through it. He does it on our bikes.

[DDB@OCR]

Mushy? Bleed 'em.

No grab? Pads be glazed. Replace- or, lightly, lightly sand pads with the sand paper on flat surface after wire bushing them. Only remove the glaze. Wipe down rotor with contact cleaner.

Test rear brake first, the front will send ya OTB.

[2wheel_lee]

Originally Posted by DDB@OCR

Mushy? Bleed 'em.

No grab? Pads be glazed. Replace- or, lightly, lightly sand pads with the sand paper on flat surface after wire bushing them. Only remove the glaze. Wipe down rotor with contact cleaner. .

If you use contact cleaner, make sure to use actual electrical contact cleaner. And make sure not to use engine and parts cleaner, carb cleaner, or some of the other general spray cleaners that have some forms of lubricants or rust inhibitors built in.

[DeeZee]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]and get rubbing alcohol. Try and get the purest stuff you can find…..like 97% or something like that.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Ps. If you are going to bleed the lines make sure you change the fluid. Here is my method.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Remove brake pads.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Install a piece of wood where the pads were (Paint stir sticks work great)[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Make sure reservoir is level. Open reservoir [/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Drain fluid and blow out with compressed air. You do this by opening up the valve on the caliper and pumping the fluid out with the brake lever[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Pick up a bleed kit at any auto parts store. Basically all you need is the clear hose that fits on the valve and a container. I have had mine for years and used it on cars, bikes and motorcycles.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Start pouring the new fluid into the reservoir. (you may need to pump the brake lever).[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Once you start seeing brake fluid in the container coming out of the valve…close the valve.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Keep topping off the reservoir and pump the lever 5 times. Hold the lever down and quickly crack open the valve until the lever is completely depressed AND HOLD!. Close the value and then release the lever.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Repeat until you do not see any more air come out of the line. Tip……….you may want to tap the lines to help the air move along.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Clean areas with rubbing alcohol and then wash hands.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Reinstall brake pads. [/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Good luck![/SIZE][/FONT]

[DDB@OCR]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

If you use contact cleaner, make sure to use actual electrical contact cleaner. And make sure not to use brake and parts cleaner, carb cleaner, or some of the other general spray cleaners that have some forms of lubricants or rust inhibitors built in.

Carb cleaner and contact cleaner are not the same thing.

Brake-kleen and contact cleaner never have surface protectant in them, that I have ever used. They are specifically designed to remove all oils and grease. Super low flash point too means drying on contact w/o residue.

[2wheel_lee]

Originally Posted by DDB@OCR

Carb cleaner and contact cleaner are not the same thing. .

That's my point.

You're right about the brake cleaner having the low flash point. I meant to say engine cleaner (now edited).

[DDB@OCR]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

That's my point.

You're right about the brake cleaner having the low flash point. I meant to say engine cleaner (now edited).

Awesome.....now:

Get back to work and off the interweb, ya slacker!
Mr. Honda's watching!

[cjwally]

Guys thanks for all of the input....I will try the alcohol deal first and then if that doesn't work....Plan B....Bleed lines and replace fluid...

[Endo Verendo]

Just buy a new bike.