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Old 10-25-2007, 01:12 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Why are you done with EBB? I have never had a bike with EBB. The only experience I have is when FoShizzle's EBB broke in the middle of the Strawberry Peak loop several years ago.
Fo's EBB broke because it rusted-up from the bike not being ridden..........but that is a different story.

EBB's are "ok" but can slip and creak. I like the paragon sliders. They are set and forget. No creaking and slipping.

One thing........Allison is incorrect about needing a EBB to run gears or SS. You can do both with sliders
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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My wife and I both have 29ers. I have two single speeds and she has a fully geared. What size frame do you ride? I have a Salsa El Mariachi and a Rig; the wife has a Paragon. I would like to get her a double squish...so maybe we can work something out. Let me know if you would like to ride any of them.


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Old 10-25-2007, 01:21 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I like the paragon sliders. They are set and forget. No creaking and slipping.
I don't know about that , just ask 1x1clyde
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Fo's EBB broke because it rusted-up from the bike not being ridden..........but that is a different story.

EBB's are "ok" but can slip and creak. I like the paragon sliders. They are set and forget. No creaking and slipping.

One thing........Allison is incorrect about needing a EBB to run gears or SS. You can do both with sliders
Have you seen what I did to paragon sliders?
EBB was built for me on my latest frame and that baby is quiet
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:47 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Well I'm late to chime in on this one... Allilson had you covered pretty well. Love the Dos for a long endurance ride.

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Have you seen what I did to paragon sliders?
EBB was built for me on my latest frame and that baby is quiet
It wasn't the slider that broke, it was the HAZ near the weld, no?

did the sliders creak though?
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:51 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Have you seen what I did to paragon sliders?
EBB was built for me on my latest frame and that baby is quiet
have not seen it.........what up?
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:51 PM   #27 (permalink)
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It wasn't the slider that broke, it was the HAZ near the weld, no?

did the sliders creak though?
Driveside slider got a "little" warped/twisted and was never the same. I don't think that contributed to the snappage but it was loud as hell under big torque.
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:57 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Driveside slider got a "little" warped/twisted and was never the same. I don't think that contributed to the snappage but it was loud as hell under big torque.
time I have ever heard of issues with sliders.

However EBB's have a long history of issues.

For the record my SIR 9 is silent but does require "adjustments" more than I like.

Also I may go with the White Ind ENO hub next time. No need for sliders or EBB
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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time I have ever heard of issues with sliders.

However EBB's have a long history of issues.

For the record my SIR 9 is silent but does require "adjustments" more than I like.

Also I may go with the White Ind ENO hub next time. No need for sliders or EBB
I have the ENO laced to a 819 so my ARC can be a single, love it!
My fancy Ti SS snapped on the non-drive side right above the slider weld, it was a frickin drag!
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:07 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I have the ENO laced to a 819 so my ARC can be a single, love it!
My fancy Ti SS snapped on the non-drive side right above the slider weld, it was a frickin drag!
Hey Neil,

About how much was the ENO disc rear wheel cost to build? Also, any problems setting up the disc brakes? I know this will vary with frame/brake. Worrying about problems setting up the rear disc brake are the only thing stopping me from getting an ENO wheel.

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Old 10-25-2007, 02:49 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Hey Neil,

About how much was the ENO disc rear wheel cost to build? Also, any problems setting up the disc brakes? I know this will vary with frame/brake. Worrying about problems setting up the rear disc brake are the only thing stopping me from getting an ENO wheel.

Thanks,

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Hey Carl,

White Industries offers a sliding disc brake adapter at $45, which I use, to help with rotor set up on the hub.
819, DT Swis Revo spokes and Eno Hub for around $250 plus labor.
Not bad for a SS set up!
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Hey Carl,

White Industries offers a sliding disc brake adapter at $45, which I use, to help with rotor set up on the hub.
819, DT Swis Revo spokes and Eno Hub for around $250 plus labor.
Not bad for a SS set up!
Slider $45
Freewheel $75

getting up there $$$
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:01 PM   #33 (permalink)
 
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Why are you done with EBB? I have never had a bike with EBB. The only experience I have is when FoShizzle's EBB broke in the middle of the Strawberry Peak loop several years ago.
EBBs suck asss.....seriously. I will never get one again. I have had now 3 bikes with EBBs....1 Phil Wood set screw, 1 Ninerbikes set screw, and 1 Bushnell. Bushnell is ok I suppose but still slips and still a pain in the arse to adjust in comparison to other methods of chain tensioning.

I am EXTREMELY happy with my ENO eccentric rear hub....love it......loved my ghetto version of slider on my On One Inbred 29er (like and IDIOT I sold the bike)....EBBs are ghey, plain and simple
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:21 PM   #34 (permalink)
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there is a cure for bad Bushnell EBBs: Carver EBB. has a Delrin (hard plastic stuff) sleeve that covers about 90% of the area between the ebb and the ebb shell. totally quiet, and slip free.

www.carverbikes.com.

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I am EXTREMELY happy with my ENO eccentric rear hub....love it......loved my ghetto version of slider on my On One Inbred 29er (like and IDIOT I sold the bike)...

I also deeply regretted selling my inbred. note to all out there- if you buy one, dont sell it.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:29 PM   #35 (permalink)
 
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there is a cure for bad Bushnell EBBs: Carver EBB. has a Delrin (hard plastic stuff) sleeve that covers about 90% of the area between the ebb and the ebb shell. totally quiet, and slip free.

www.carverbikes.com.




I also deeply regretted selling my inbred. note to all out there- if you buy one, dont sell it.
there is another cure, dont get EBB...that gets my vote. And I am sorry to hear of your loss...i feel your pain.
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:57 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Next SS bike I would like to try a split shell pinch bolt setup. I love the geometry on my Niner, so I am willing live with taking the bottom bracket apart now and then and cleaning the dirt out to get rid of the creaks.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:06 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Good point. What would you say if the 575 had only been ridden 5 or 6 time in the past year?
That's a tough call because you've been riding road instead. If it was only ridden 5-6 times in the passed year because you borrowed your friend's 29er for awhile and found that you liked the 29er better, then I would say go ahead and sell. However, since you've been mainly riding on the road instead, it's hard to judge if you will want the Yeti when you start hitting the trails with more frequency again.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:16 PM   #38 (permalink)
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fo-sho. My next SS will have sliders or a ENO rear hub.

I am done with EBB's
People who checked out the new titanium Niner at Interbike noticed that the EBB didn't have the set screw fittings and were puzzled.

There may be a new design in Niner's future.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:29 PM   #39 (permalink)
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People who checked out the new titanium Niner at Interbike noticed that the EBB didn't have the set screw fittings and were puzzled.

There may be a new design in Niner's future.
it was a wedge design like on the Fisher Rig
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:31 PM   #40 (permalink)
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At the next group ride I am going to have to remember to have you guys explain this crap to me. All of this talk of different BBs is going over my head...
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