Go Back   SoCalTrailRiders > Local Riding > General Discussion
Reload this Page Yelled at for paying to park - Aliso

General Discussion For any bike discussion that doesn't belong in other forums.

 
Thread Tools
 
Rascal
Senior Member
 
Rascal's Avatar
 
Default Yelled at for paying to park - Aliso
So for the 3rd time this year, I was basically called an idiot for using the pay lot at Aliso.

I went for a ride yesterday and as always, parked in the lot. A hiker came by and said "ya know, it's free to park on the street". I said yeah, I don't mind paying, but thanks.

Well, long story short, he couldn't understand why someone would pay when they don't have to. My basic response was that I don't mind paying the 3 bucks, it isn't going to send me to the poor house and most importantly, I believe in supporting the trails I get to enjoy. My wording was a bit more colorful though...

I don't get it. I know it can be a pain to make sure you have the singles to pay the machine and yes, your car does get dusty, but to criticize a stranger for doing to the right thing??? I don't go criticize the people that park on the street.

I bought a parking pass so I wouldn't have to worry about having the money and since it works at most of the parks I use on a regular basis, it was a no brainer.

Some people...
__________________
Beer, the cause and solution to all of life's problems...
post thanked by:
andy aka rut (09-25-2007), BrewMaster (09-25-2007), DeeZee (09-25-2007), Dino Brown (09-25-2007), dubjay (09-25-2007), genusmtbkr5 (09-25-2007), ghixon (09-25-2007), KonaDupee (09-25-2007), MOSH1DH (09-25-2007), OMR (09-25-2007), Permagrin (09-25-2007), Red Ryder (09-25-2007), ShinKen (09-25-2007), Singletrack Angel (09-25-2007), Skeeter (09-25-2007)
 
foofighter
Duan'er - 29'er remixed
 
foofighter's Avatar
 
Default
people sometime feel that they're getting something for free when they bypass the system...you should tell him i'm helping to pay for the park maintenance and upkeep for your and my use of the park
__________________
-Duan
Dulce et Decorum

Click the Button
post thanked by:
andy aka rut (09-25-2007), Dino Brown (09-25-2007), genusmtbkr5 (09-25-2007)
 
DeeZee
2007-08 NBA Champions
 
DeeZee's Avatar
 
Default When I take my kids there
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rascal View Post
So for the 3rd time this year, I was basically called an idiot for using the pay lot at Aliso.

I went for a ride yesterday and as always, parked in the lot. A hiker came by and said "ya know, it's free to park on the street". I said yeah, I don't mind paying, but thanks.

Well, long story short, he couldn't understand why someone would pay when they don't have to. My basic response was that I don't mind paying the 3 bucks, it isn't going to send me to the poor house and most importantly, I believe in supporting the trails I get to enjoy. My wording was a bit more colorful though...

I don't get it. I know it can be a pain to make sure you have the singles to pay the machine and yes, your car does get dusty, but to criticize a stranger for doing to the right thing??? I don't go criticize the people that park on the street.

I bought a parking pass so I wouldn't have to worry about having the money and since it works at most of the parks I use on a regular basis, it was a no brainer.

Some people...
I usually use the lot and pay. It is safer than parking on the street.

With my schedule I do not have as much time to give back "in labor" to support the trails. So I do not mind purchasing a pass to park at San Juan etc.. and pay a few bucks at Aliso.

However $10 at El Morro is a rape job!
__________________
Red Hot Sloth
"where I grew up bling bling would get you shot, same with the lycra"

Dirtmistress "Hey! I resemble that remark! I was born in Berkeley and have the chin hairs to prove it!!"
post thanked by:
foofighter (09-25-2007), genusmtbkr5 (09-25-2007), OMR (09-25-2007)
 
foofighter
Duan'er - 29'er remixed
 
foofighter's Avatar
 
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post

However $10 at El Morro is a rape job!
they're taking advantage of the rich newport coast peeps Doug
__________________
-Duan
Dulce et Decorum

Click the Button
post thanked by:
DeeZee (09-25-2007), LBmtb (09-25-2007)
 
cjwally
SS'ing Nightmares
 
cjwally's Avatar
 
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
However $10 at El Morro is a rape job!
How much is it for a yearly pass again? $120??
 
LBmtb
good times
 
LBmtb's Avatar
 
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjwally View Post
How much is it for a yearly pass again? $120??
Nope. They recently increased it to . . . one million dollars


__________________
My Twits
tkblazer: wonder if i can wear my yellow speedo
me: only if you wear the matching yellow goggles with it
post thanked by:
CalEpic (09-25-2007), jeffj (09-25-2007), KonaDupee (09-25-2007), Schecky (09-25-2007)
 
DeeZee
2007-08 NBA Champions
 
DeeZee's Avatar
 
Default Duno
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjwally View Post
How much is it for a yearly pass again? $120??
I only ride there once or twice a year.

The CNF adventure pass is $30

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/passes/
__________________
Red Hot Sloth
"where I grew up bling bling would get you shot, same with the lycra"

Dirtmistress "Hey! I resemble that remark! I was born in Berkeley and have the chin hairs to prove it!!"
 
jcampbell
going my speed since 1975
 
jcampbell's Avatar
 
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
I only ride there once or twice a year.

The CNF adventure pass is $30

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/passes/
I buy an adventure pass every year... that doesn't cover Aliso???? Am I wrong. I know its for places like Maple and Trabuco and the like since that is Cleveland National Forest.
 
andy aka rut
STR Veteran
 
andy aka rut's Avatar
 
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by foofighter View Post
they're taking advantage of the rich newport coast peeps Doug
Actually that parking lot is considered part of the State Beach Parking Lots. All the State Beach Parking Lots are $10. They aren't taking advantage of the Newport Beach/Laguna Beach money at hand, just staying consistant with all the state beach parking lots.
Now why is it considered a beach parking lot????? I have no idea! Other than the maintenance crew and the lifeguard headquarters are both there.
__________________
"I haven't worn that dress in a couple weeks!"-Dino Brown

"Tim, You're coming home with me tonight!" - Jesse (Intergadriv3r)
post thanked by:
foofighter (09-25-2007), genusmtbkr5 (09-25-2007), Permagrin (09-25-2007)
 
foofighter
Duan'er - 29'er remixed
 
foofighter's Avatar
 
Default
aliso is county park. That permit (CNF) covers state parks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy aka rut View Post
Actually that parking lot is considered part of the State Beach Parking Lots. All the State Beach Parking Lots are $10. They aren't taking advantage of the Newport Beach/Laguna Beach money at hand, just staying consistant with all the state beach parking lots.
Now why is it considered a beach parking lot????? I have no idea! Other than the maintenance crew and the lifeguard headquarters are both there.
i keeed andy
__________________
-Duan
Dulce et Decorum

Click the Button
 
DeeZee
2007-08 NBA Champions
 
DeeZee's Avatar
 
Default Yep............
Quote:
Originally Posted by foofighter View Post
they're taking advantage of the rich newport coast peeps Doug
trying to keep the riff-raff out...Like you and me

Quote:
Originally Posted by jcampbell View Post
I buy an adventure pass every year... that doesn't cover Aliso???? Am I wrong. I know its for places like Maple and Trabuco and the like since that is Cleveland National Forest.
Jeff the adventure pass only covers the CNF. I have a seperate pass for the City of San Clemente and now need to purchase one for the state parks
__________________
Red Hot Sloth
"where I grew up bling bling would get you shot, same with the lycra"

Dirtmistress "Hey! I resemble that remark! I was born in Berkeley and have the chin hairs to prove it!!"
post thanked by:
foofighter (09-25-2007)
 
Red Ryder
Senior Member
 
Red Ryder's Avatar
 
Default
[quote=foofighter;109930]aliso is county park that permit covers state parks.



I haven't heard that the county permit covers the state parks. Did I miss something?

The county park permit is $55 per year. It allows you to park at county parks, like Aliso, Whiting, Peters, Santiago Oaks, Irvine and others.
__________________
Quicker than slow... it's a good day to ride!
 
foofighter
Duan'er - 29'er remixed
 
foofighter's Avatar
 
Default
sorry for the confusin i was stating that aliso is a county park so the CNF permit will not work for a county owned park.
__________________
-Duan
Dulce et Decorum

Click the Button
 
Padre
STR Veteran
 
Padre's Avatar
 
Default
I like to ride the 8 miles to Aliso, saving the $3 bucks in parking and the $3 in gas.

Aren't I special.
post thanked by:
BrewMaster (09-25-2007), DeeZee (09-25-2007)
 
genusmtbkr5
Single Track Mind
 
genusmtbkr5's Avatar
 
Default
[quote=Floater;109946]
Quote:
Originally Posted by foofighter View Post
aliso is county park that permit covers state parks.



I haven't heard that the county permit covers the state parks. Did I miss something?

The county park permit is $55 per year. It allows you to park at county parks, like Aliso, Whiting, Peters, Santiago Oaks, Irvine and others.
It also cover O'Neill. If you choose to pay $80 for the year, it includes the beaches and harbors like Dana Point and Salt Creek. $40 mid year(July). That pass is calendar only, so you need to buy it in Jan. The State pass for EL Moro and State beaches like San Onofre cost $120.00 a year. The adventure pass(Maple Springs, San Juan) is $30.00, You can buy the second pass for your "2nd car" for $5.00 at Sports Chalet and any place else that sells it, $35.00 for 2 adventure passes. Both of these passes(state and adventure) you can purchase anytime and is good for 12 months from date of purchase.
__________________

Gene"GuidesNewWarriors"
http://www.warriorssociety.org/


http://www.sharemtb.com/
 
DDB@OCR
has-been onna hardtail
 
DDB@OCR's Avatar
 
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rascal View Post
...
but to criticize a stranger for doing to the right thing??? I don't go criticize the people that park on the street.

Some people...
He friggin' yelled at you?

Next time, try raking his shins with the climbing-spikes on the toes of yer shoes and thank Capt. Obvious for his concern.

__________________
Viva the Hill. - http://mtbpv.org/
post thanked by:
BrewMaster (09-25-2007)
 
guero
mmmmm, noogs...
 
guero's Avatar
 
Default
all these passes to enjoy one of the last 'free' things in this world, nature, is insane.
__________________
for a good time, click ---> Adrenaline Bikes
post thanked by:
BrewMaster (09-25-2007), genusmtbkr5 (09-25-2007)
 
DeeZee
2007-08 NBA Champions
 
DeeZee's Avatar
 
Default But then again
Quote:
Originally Posted by Padre View Post
I like to ride the 8 miles to Aliso, saving the $3 bucks in parking and the $3 in gas.

Aren't I special.

you have to ride the road and shave your legs. Think how much $$ I save by having harry legs
__________________
Red Hot Sloth
"where I grew up bling bling would get you shot, same with the lycra"

Dirtmistress "Hey! I resemble that remark! I was born in Berkeley and have the chin hairs to prove it!!"
 
Rascal
Senior Member
 
Rascal's Avatar
 
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by foofighter View Post
people sometime feel that they're getting something for free when they bypass the system...you should tell him i'm helping to pay for the park maintenance and upkeep for your and my use of the park
And that is my mentality on the subject.

I know it's a nature trail, open to everyone so to speak but the bottom line is somebody 'owns' it, somebody maintains it and somebody allows us to tear it up.

I thi