SS'ers: Do you really need a SS specific frame?

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Originally Posted by foofighter

c'mon doug...let's hear it.

[FONT=Arial]"Eccentric BBs suck asss IMHO.....i will never do it again (have had 3). I MUCH prefer sliders and MUCH prefer my ENO Eccentric rear hub....that thing is killer."[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Agree. When / if I get rid of my SIR it is sliders or me next time. The White Industries stuff is great (I have owned their stuff for years)[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]"you don’t need a SS-specific frame as others have noted and in my opinion, the eccentric rear hub (especially if running v-brakes out back) is a better mechanism than an EBB anyway and while more expensive than a tensioner."[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Agree[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial]"Only downside is that if you don’t like White Industries, there are no other folks making this type of hub."[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Disagree. But there are other downsides. The price for the freewheels, chain line can be a challenge, engagement of the freewheel is not as good as let’s say a King, Hadley, DT, etc free hubs, weight and others.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial]Again I like the WI stuff and may get one myself in the near future. However[/FONT][FONT=Arial] I do not think someone getting started with SS’ing should get the WI set. Why because when you start SS’ing you will start with a lower gear set-up (more teeth in the rear). As you get stronger or ride different trails you may want to change gearing. For example I am at the point now that I may want to drop a few teeth on my SS for most of the trails that I ride. However there are others that require lower gearing (for me).[/FONT]

[FoShizzle]

Originally Posted by 29wheels

[FONT=Arial].....[/FONT][FONT=Arial]there are other downsides. The price for the freewheels, chain line can be a challenge, engagement of the freewheel is not as good as let’s say a King, Hadley, DT, etc free hubs, weight and others.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Again I like the WI stuff and may get one myself in the near future. However[/FONT][FONT=Arial] I do not think someone getting started with SS’ing should get the WI set. Why because when you start SS’ing you will start with a lower gear set-up (more teeth in the rear). As you get stronger or ride different trails you may want to change gearing. For example I am at the point now that I may want to drop a few teeth on my SS for most of the trails that I ride. However there are others that require lower gearing (for me).[/FONT]

what do you mean the "WI set"....you mean the freewheel itself? If so, I agree....just get a cheap ACS till you land on the gearing you like.......same argument as not getting a Boone cog out of the gate with a cassette hub till you find the cog size you like.

no offense, but i dont buy the argument AT ALL as to their being an advantage to cassette hubs to change gearing. Whether freewheel or not, you need a different number of teeth either via different freewheel or different cog. So.......if you gotta change the gearing for whatever reason (really different terrain on a ride you are planning, preference, etc), you gotta change the gearing, period, cog or otherwise. And my point is that to have a debate about the "time" it takes to make a switch to a new sized cog versus a new sized freewheel is ridiculous since at least for me, with even limited brain cells, can make the switch in the same amount of time. And the chainline argument is theoretical in most cases....i have never had a problem across multiple single speeds.

now stop with the hurtful words and dont disagree with me anymore! i am very sensitive.

[foofighter]

keep it coming, this is exactly what i want, information exchange that way others will benefit as well

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Originally Posted by FoShizzle

what do you mean the "WI set"....you mean the freewheel itself? If so, I agree....just get a cheap ACS till you land on the gearing you like.......same argument as not getting a Boone cog out of the gate with a cassette hub till you find the cog size you like.

no offense, but i dont buy the argument AT ALL as to their being an advantage to cassette hubs to change gearing. Whether freewheel or not, you need a different number of teeth either via different freewheel or different cog. So.......if you gotta change the gearing for whatever reason (really different terrain on a ride you are planning, preference, etc), you gotta change the gearing, period, cog or otherwise. And my point is that to have a debate about the "time" it takes to make a switch to a new sized cog versus a new sized freewheel is ridiculous since at least for me, with even limited brain cells, can make the switch in the same amount of time. And the chainline argument is theoretical in most cases....i have never had a problem across multiple single speeds.

now stop with the hurtful words and dont disagree with me anymore! i am very sensitive.

Yes WI = White Industries freewheel

Now if you will excuse me I need to go re-tighten my EBB

Fo you have a point.......about using the ACS stuff. But for a n00b no way would I suggest a White system just beacuse of the cost..........freek'in bike snob!

[FoShizzle]

Originally Posted by 29wheels

Yes WI = White Industries freewheel

Now if you will excuse me I need to go re-tighten my EBB

Fo you have a point.......about using the ACS stuff. But for a n00b no way would I suggest a White system just beacuse of the cost..........freek'in bike snob!

LOL.....you know I love you....your mangina and all

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Originally Posted by FoShizzle

LOL.....you know I love you....your mangina and all

stop sending me those pics of you in your lycra (size xx small)

[FoShizzle]

Originally Posted by 29wheels

stop sending me those pics of you in your lycra (size xx small)

no worries....i will stick with the nudies only then

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Originally Posted by FoShizzle

no worries....i will stick with the nudies only then

[foofighter]

Originally Posted by FoShizzle

no worries....i will stick with the nudies only then

[FoShizzle]

Originally Posted by foofighter

I would post em here but I dont want to make the STR gals hawt....or the guys (eg, Burner)

[foofighter]

im speechless

[CaptainK29er]

Has anyone seen a real fight on the trails over bikes, bike parts and clothing bias?

It just might be interesting to see.

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Originally Posted by foofighter

Not that I'm doing anything like that anytime soon, call it preplanning. But do you absolutely need to have a SS frame to have a single speed bike? Because i was thinking one can pick up a relatively inexpensive hardtail (new/used) and just convert.

Thoughts?

dude, I want in on this. there are so many older hart tails for sale on craig's list for almost nothing. I have been thinking of getting in on this kind of project myself. Does it make sense to build an SS 26er?