Niner One 9 vs Niner Sir 9

[cjwally]

Ok guys, well the Kona Unit 29er frame that I bought was defective due to 3% cracking at the head tube. I am looking to upgrade.

I am looking at the Niner One9 and the Niner Sir9. Since I have ridden the steel frames and love the feel, I am partial to the Sir9. But, since the One9 is sooooo light, it sparked my interest.

Does anyone have any ideas for me on which one to go with. IS the ride quality of the Scandium that much harsher than the 853 butted steel frame? Give me your thoughts and opinions..... Thanks guys!

[Schecky]

I was eying that scandium frame at the Path on Monday.
I am on the fence too. I love me a steel bike.

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by Schecky

I was eying that scandium frame at the Path on Monday.
I am on the fence too. I love me a steel bike.

That is where I was looking at it yesterday.... That frame is soooo light. I barely could believe it....

[SAR_boats]

Steel Is Real, baby!

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by SAR_boats

Steel Is Real, baby!

I guess it rhymes for a reason....

[dstepper]

I have owned a Kona Unit and I currently have a One-9. I will bring the Medium One-9 to Fully Loop tonight if you want to try it.

I am 220 lbs so for me to enjoy a steel bike it would need to be a custom build frame. Off the shelf bikes are not designed for my weight. That said the Unit was to flexy for my weight and bounce badly when I spunout. Yes that mostly due to poor bike skills but I have never been a spinner I am a masher.

The Niner is much stiffer and no bounce when spinning out but I also helps running 2x1 gearing. My weight can even tweak the Niner frame and I can get some back tire buzz when climbing...Exi is the widest tire I can run on the back.

Also remember the One-9 is a Singlespeed only frame and Sir9 can go both ways.

Dean

[Von-Skipp]

Originally Posted by cjwally

Ok guys, well the Kona Unit 29er frame that I bought was defective due to 3% cracking at the head tube. I am looking to upgrade.

I am looking at the Niner One9 and the Niner Sir9. Since I have ridden the steel frames and love the feel, I am partial to the Sir9. But, since the One9 is sooooo light, it sparked my interest.

Does anyone have any ideas for me on which one to go with. IS the ride quality of the Scandium that much harsher than the 853 butted steel frame? Give me your thoughts and opinions..... Thanks guys!

If your not set on the Niner frames check out the Vassago frames from the The Bike Co. Steel 29ner SS. Frames are going for about $380. People seem to love the geometry. This might be my summer build project......

http://bikeco.com/productcart/pc/vie...&idproduct=355

[dstepper]

I am not a fan of horizonal dropouts. I am not familar with that frame but it does not look like it has tug nuts.

Dean

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by dstepper

I am not a fan of horizonal dropouts. I am not familar with that frame but it does not look like it has tug nuts.

Dean

Especially when you are climbing and torque the frame, the dropouts move and then you stand up to climb and then the chain falls off and you demolish the back of your leg with your egg beaters. I am quickly becoming a non fan of horizontal dropouts..... I am with you....EBB all the way now....

[OMR]

The steel frame will give you years of usuage... feels great and can usually be repaired if broken. I also like the simplicity and functionality of the EBB.

OMR

[ShinKen]

Originally Posted by cjwally

Especially when you are climbing and torque the frame, the dropouts move and then you stand up to climb and then the chain falls off and you demolish the back of your leg with your egg beaters. I am quickly becoming a non fan of horizontal dropouts..... I am with you....EBB all the way now....

yep that was one of my problems with the redline!!! i had to adjust the wheel and the chain tension almost on every ride!! sucks BALLS!!! but now with the Sir, life is sooo much bettER!!! and yes I think u should go with the the Sir I hear the one can be a little more painfull than the sir on the fast tech drops!! and I know u like that type of riding better so make the right choice eHH!!

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by ShinKen

yep that was one of my problems with the redline!!! i had to adjust the wheel and the chain tension almost on every ride!! sucks BALLS!!! but now with the Sir, life is sooo much bettER!!! and yes I think u should go with the the Sir I hear the one can be a little more painfull than the sir on the fast tech drops!! and I know u like that type of riding better so make the right choice eHH!!

This will be my only bike for a while. Have we ridden? How do you know that I like the tech riding? You are spot on though...

Hmmm....Seems as though the steel is the choice so far.... Any more opinions....

[ShinKen]

Originally Posted by cjwally

This will be my only bike for a while. Have we ridden? How do you know that I like the tech riding? You are spot on though...

Hmmm....Seems as though the steel is the choice so far.... Any more opinions....

I think we did SART and San Juan b4!! I'm the dood with the kermit Green Niner (the brown dood)

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by ShinKen

I think we did SART and San Juan b4!! I'm the dood with the kermit Green Niner (the brown dood)

HAHA nm....I looked at your pics in your profile. I realized immediately....lol.

You love that bike don't ya?

[ShinKen]

Originally Posted by cjwally

HAHA nm....I looked at your pics in your profile. I realized immediately....lol.

Originally Posted by cjwally

You love that bike don't ya?

Ohh HELSS YeaH!!! only thing I need is a new TI chain ring!!pedaling kind of sucks right now!!

[dubjay]

I would probably go with the SIR.

I have a scandium Voodoo now. The ride quality isn't that bad, but I always feel a little uneasy when it gets rough. Scandium tubing is pretty thin, and I've seen some frame failure pics - not good.

So - when the budget (and wife) allows, I'll probably be getting something made of steel instead.

[tbowren]

Originally Posted by cjwally

Ok guys, well the Kona Unit 29er frame that I bought was defective due to 3% cracking at the head tube. I am looking to upgrade.

I saw your post on MTBR saying that Kona would replace your Unit 2-9 if you brought it back to the Path. Are you worried that the 07's will have the same problems or is this just a good opportunity to try something new?

That $450 Red One9 is hard to pass up. Sooo pretty, and such a good deal.

I would have pulled the trigger on that but I just don't know yet if I'm ready for an SS only bike.

[tkblazer]

Originally Posted by tbowren

I would have pulled the trigger on that but I just don't know yet if I'm ready for an SS only bike.

doooooo it

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by tbowren

I saw your post on MTBR saying that Kona would replace your Unit 2-9 if you brought it back to the Path. Are you worried that the 07's will have the same problems or is this just a good opportunity to try something new?

That $450 Red One9 is hard to pass up. Sooo pretty, and such a good deal.

I would have pulled the trigger on that but I just don't know yet if I'm ready for an SS only bike.

Well I just have a bad taste in my mouth from the Kona experience. I love the ride and the frame.

I would have bought the one9 if they had the right size for me. They only have one frame left on sale and they were all XL's.

[andy aka rut]

CJ-were you riding Aliso tonight? Did I run into you at the top of Mathis (you were on a loaner Ellsworth???) I was on the SIR9.

rut