maxxis ignitor for 29'ers

[new2mtb]

Quick question on these tires. I have the wire bead one that came with the bike. As far as I know the wire beads are heavier than the kevlar ones, so I went and bought myself the kevlar ones thinking it'll be lighter. I weighed my wire bead ones and its 710g, jenson claims the kevlar is 510g so when I got the new tires (identical size btw) i was surprised that they both weigh the same. Both kevlar and wire bead weigh 710g (4g diff). The tires are same 2.1's and same tire model "ignitors" they look identical. Am i missing something ? Does this mean both tire will be the same as far as weight resistance is concerned ?

[khai]

damn, stop being weight weenie. go strip the sticker off ur rims and u will offset with the tire weight

[new2mtb]

ey, 450grams is approx 1 lb, that is 1lb you have to roll up the mountain . hehehehe

[ShinKen]

Originally Posted by khai

damn, stop being weight weenie.

yeah what dood said!!! muuhahhahahahahaaa!! U tough riding a SS was gonna be a freaking walk on the park? get over it BUB!! and ride freaking hard!! (hmm sounding like a freaking commercial ) just ride dood!! come on that 32/22 mix should be easy enough!!

[soul rider]

the only weight i hate is the wait to go ride...

[ShinKen]

Originally Posted by soul rider

the only weight i hate is the wait to go ride...

yeah like right now I cant wait to hit the loopy loop!! hopefully my bike will be rdy by than!! where r u riding today?

[khai]

dudes, i might be joining the 29er SS club soon!!!!! Jax bike shop is selling 06 gary fisher RIG for $800.

[ShinKen]

Originally Posted by khai

dudes, i might be joining the 29er SS club soon!!!!! Jax bike shop is selling 06 gary fisher RIG for $800.

FYI the shop in Fullerton (but maybe all) had a sale all weekend!! today is the last day!! maybe u can get a better deal!!

[soul rider]

the loop...i'll be shirtless on a gray hardtail and red fork

[new2mtb]

ey! which loop is this ? mind if we tag along ? u have to wait though, im new2mtb

i didn't use to be weight weenie, up until i rode my friends' lite bike then i was miserable now its like a sickness / addiction that won't go away. Everything is being accounted for,,,,, in GRAMS

oh for those people that are interested why the heavy tire..

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...19331#poststop

thats why..

jose, u need to take us to new trails on the weekend mang! i need new trails , my bike need new dirt and khai is falling asleep doing mills )

[ShinKen]

Originally Posted by new2mtb

ey! which loop is this ? mind if we tag along ? u have to wait though, im new2mtb

???

If you're talking about riding today well Its the Fullerton Loop 4:30 Pm start time but doing a few laps. U're weldome to join. I'm doing a slow pace today (like I ever do any fast pace rides lol). look on the map for link.

[new2mtb]

oh i can't do today, did a long ride yesterday. damn u reply fast ! get back to work !

[khai]

Originally Posted by ShinKen

FYI the shop in Fullerton (but maybe all) had a sale all weekend!! today is the last day!! maybe u can get a better deal!!

ya, $800 is the 20% off the $1000 price tag. today is the last day.

yo, u the 'BEGINNER' new2mtb.....they r toking abt the fullerton loop. Do u want me to show the beginner the loop?

[FoShizzle]

Originally Posted by new2mtb

Quick question on these tires. I have the wire bead one that came with the bike. As far as I know the wire beads are heavier than the kevlar ones, so I went and bought myself the kevlar ones thinking it'll be lighter. I weighed my wire bead ones and its 710g, jenson claims the kevlar is 510g so when I got the new tires (identical size btw) i was surprised that they both weigh the same. Both kevlar and wire bead weigh 710g (4g diff). The tires are same 2.1's and same tire model "ignitors" they look identical. Am i missing something ? Does this mean both tire will be the same as far as weight resistance is concerned ?

I personally think Ignitors suck asss in some ways. I blew/tore the sidewall on a relatively girly rock garden that I have done many times....weaksauce. The sidewalls are paper thin. For XC riding I think an ok front tire as they have a decent knob pattern for turns but I would not run as a rear myself.

As far as tire weights, there has been a TON of variability reported for the Ignitors. Weights as high as you are mentioning and I have seen many documented reports of 580 gram range. Mine weighed in at 620 grams a piece.

I will not buy them again.

For SoCal rocky riding I still think the tire to beat is the Exiwolf. On my so-called "All Mountain Bike" I now run Exis front and rear. Fyi - newer Kevlar Exiwolfs are only 770 grams a piece or so (both of mine are about this weight) so a great weight for the tire. Not the greatest at cornering but good enough....and robust through rock gardens and can handle pretty low psi very well.

The other tire to beat (as a front tire anyway) is the new Panaracer 2.35 Rampage. I will probably try it as a front tire next round. Reported/documented weights right at or slightly under 800 grams which is very impressive as far as I am concerned.

Here is a pic of a 2.35 Rampage (right side) next to a 2.3 Exiwolf (left).

[khai]

damn, u guys post fast, dont u need to be working or something?

[ShinKen]

Originally Posted by new2mtb

oh i can't do today, did a long ride yesterday. damn u reply fast ! get back to work !

I'm on my way out!! he he. second lap should start around 6. ne-more excuses?

[new2mtb]

interesting... i like the rampage, the thread is similar to the nevagals in a way. i think the rolling resisstance is good too. So i guess i will be returning my ignitors and just see what other tires are comming out since i still have a lot of meat on my wire bead ones.

Originally Posted by FoShizzle

I personally think Ignitors suck asss in some ways. I blew/tore the sidewall on a relatively girly rock garden that I have done many times....weaksauce. The sidewalls are paper thin. For XC riding I think an ok front tire as they have a decent knob pattern for turns but I would not run as a rear myself.

As far as tire weights, there has been a TON of variability reported for the Ignitors. Weights as high as you are mentioning and I have seen many documented reports of 580 gram range. Mine weighed in at 620 grams a piece.

I will not buy them again.

For SoCal rocky riding I still think the tire to beat is the Exiwolf. On my so-called "All Mountain Bike" I now run Exis front and rear. Fyi - newer Kevlar Exiwolfs are only 770 grams a piece or so (both of mine are about this weight) so a great weight for the tire. Not the greatest at cornering but good enough....and robust through rock gardens and can handle pretty low psi very well.

The other tire to beat (as a front tire anyway) is the new Panaracer 2.35 Rampage. I will probably try it as a front tire next round. Reported/documented weights right at or slightly under 800 grams which is very impressive as far as I am concerned.

Here is a pic of a 2.35 Rampage (right side) next to a 2.3 Exiwolf (left).

[dhshuttlemonkey]

Hey Romeo & Khai, the Fully loop is road ride w/ a few sections of dirt thrown in. You roadie guys will feel right at home.

Jose, you gonna be out there on Wed?

[ShinKen]

Originally Posted by MTBRacer

Hey Romeo & Khai, the Fully loop is road ride w/ a few sections of dirt thrown in. You roadie guys will feel right at home.

Jose, you gonna be out there on Wed?

lol road ride!! ootay I give up!! about Wed not sure yet!! it looks like some people want to. will let u know foo sure.

[new2mtb]

Originally Posted by ShinKen

lol road ride!! ootay I give up!!