GeoLadder Route Guide Lines?

[~ Pakiha ~]

Ok, So I have been absent for a while partially due to my daughter's birth and needing to support the Fam. As well as my embarassment at my Suck ass endurance on my last ride at Aliso. Anyways I have been riding the hard tail to work to change the later. I noticed that on Geoladders if you have one of the GPS devices you can create your own route. Could I make a personal route to work and list my training ride on Signal Hill and get points for it???
Also what are some good GPS's on the market?

[Von-Skipp]

Originally Posted by ~ Pakiha ~

Also what are some good GPS's on the market?

Garmin Edge 305.
http://www.garmin.com/products/edge305/
The perfect Geoladders tool! With this you can make your own personal routes and achieve points. If your commute to work is on the road be sure to post it on the road ladder.

Currently we are creating NAV files where you can upload a route to your Edge. This will give you turn by turn directions where to go. You could literally ride a route blind and never get lost.

This a link to GPS Playback. The dots represent riders.
http://www.geoladders.com/gps_route_...?route_id=1395

The Edge is a great tool for keeping track your rides and training.

[Jordansrealm]

Those who have used this Garmin device, does it respond quickly when navigating? I have used several GPS devices during off-road racing and often the directions or mapping can lag because of satellite response times. I know on mtn bike trails often you make several turns in the matter of seconds and I wonder, does it keep up?

[Von-Skipp]

We are still testing all the routes. Most of the turns will Alert you 5-20 feet ahead which is perfect.

Its really impressive how accurate and precise these things are!!

[~ Pakiha ~]

ON GLadders it looked to me that the route creators took their sweet time to make the route was marked correctly.

Thanks Skippy! good to see #7 lookin out for #386

Is it a bar mount for the Garmin?

[Von-Skipp]

Originally Posted by ~ Pakiha ~

ON GLadders it looked to me that the route creators took their sweet time to make the route was marked correctly.

Thanks Skippy! good to see #7 lookin out for #386

Is it a bar mount for the Garmin?

Most guys mount the Edge on the stem, which is very secure.

[royta]

If you think you might want a GPS for other outdoor activities besides just cycling, than I would suggest not getting the Edge. Get something like a Garmin eTrex series, Garmin GPSMAP 60 series, or something along those lines. I personally use a GPSMAP 60CS, which I have loaded with topo maps and street maps. I can enter an address into my GPS and it will direct me to that address. Kind of nice to find that TH. The 60CS is now discontinued, and it's replacement is the 60CSx.

Von-Skipp is right though, the Edge units are perfect for cycling. Personally, I can't justify spending the $$ on a cycling specific GPS unit though. If you compare the two units on the Garmin website, you'll see that the Edge is destroyed in the comparison of overall outdoor features. However, in cycling specific features, like heartrate or training software, than the Edge wins. Also, the Edge does not take disposable batteries. All of my sucky routes I created on geoladders were created using my 60CS.

I could mount my GPS to the bars, but I'd probably wreck and destroy it the first time I did. I keep mine in mesh pocket of my camelbak. This absolutely sucks for navigating though. The world is full of tradeoffs.

[Jordansrealm]

I have a Garmin eTrex Legend that I will be using with the handle bar mount on my bike soon.

[dubjay]

Originally Posted by Von-Skipp

Currently we are creating NAV files where you can upload a route to your Edge. This will give you turn by turn directions where to go. You could literally ride a route blind and never get lost.

Hey Skipp - any idea when this will be completed? That'll be a really really nice feature. No need to print out route directions any longer

[Von-Skipp]

Originally Posted by dubjay

Hey Skipp - any idea when this will be completed? That'll be a really really nice feature. No need to print out route directions any longer

There currently 101 routes in Orange County. I believe 50 of them have NAV files. Not all of them are 100% accurate yet. If you go to a route on Geloadders, on the left side there is box with the NAV File and it has a rating of the accuracy with reviews.

The NAV files and Geo-Agent are in Beta form and free of charge. Soon this will change....

[Kid A]

i got the 205 (no candence/heart for me). I like it. have yet to "push' data to it for navigation (as V-Skipp mentions) but tracks your riding well and has some cool features tht allow you to "race" yourself, etc. Software that comes with it is okay at best but motionbased is pretty cool. I believe you can post to motionbased and pull down routes as well

As found on motionebased
Improved Course Download - We've made some improvements with Course Downloads, so you should be able to download any activity at MotionBased as a Course using the MotionBased Agent. We encourage everyone to start experimenting with Courses. Once you get the hang of using Courses during your workouts, you'll begin to really see the value of your GPS device.

[CranxOC]

Originally Posted by royta

If you think you might want a GPS for other outdoor activities besides just cycling, than I would suggest not getting the Edge. Get something like a Garmin eTrex series, Garmin GPSMAP 60 series, or something along those lines. I personally use a GPSMAP 60CS, which I have loaded with topo maps and street maps. I can enter an address into my GPS and it will direct me to that address. Kind of nice to find that TH. The 60CS is now discontinued, and it's replacement is the 60CSx.

Von-Skipp is right though, the Edge units are perfect for cycling. Personally, I can't justify spending the $$ on a cycling specific GPS unit though. If you compare the two units on the Garmin website, you'll see that the Edge is destroyed in the comparison of overall outdoor features. However, in cycling specific features, like heartrate or training software, than the Edge wins. Also, the Edge does not take disposable batteries. All of my sucky routes I created on geoladders were created using my 60CS.

I could mount my GPS to the bars, but I'd probably wreck and destroy it the first time I did. I keep mine in mesh pocket of my camelbak. This absolutely sucks for navigating though. The world is full of tradeoffs.

Dude, Roy, are you an "outdoorsman" or a mountain biker?

Just to make sure there is no confusion, the Edge is an incredible tool for riders. It has the latest GPS receiver on the market so it's quite literally one of the most sensitive GPS units you can buy today. It also has about 50 different metrics that that you can toggle through (although most people will only use 6-10 of them).

I've been using my Edge 305HR for about 5 months now and can honestly say that I've had almost zero problems (it's frozen up twice but only once on the trail). The battery life is solid; it's heald up through rain, mud, snow and heat; it's rather rugged and it's very easy to use once you get used to it.

As for mounting: Like Skippy said, put it on your stem and you'll likely never have a problem. Given the size of the unit, it fits perfectly on any stem that's 90mm or longer and, unless you have some strange, gnarly, upside-down crash, you will almost never strike the top of your stem on anything so the Edge is pretty well protected up there.

Buy one, love it and use it...we'll be mapping more and more routes for you to download and follow on your Edge!

[Ponch]

Originally Posted by ~ Pakiha ~

ON GLadders it looked to me that the route creators took their sweet time to make the route was marked correctly.

Thanks Skippy! good to see #7 lookin out for #386

Is it a bar mount for the Garmin?

Good to hear from you. You need to come back down for a ride. I rode with SpinDoc Tuesday (he is also part of the dad crew). We are thinking about an early ride weekend after next.

[royta]

Originally Posted by CranxOC

Dude, Roy, are you an "outdoorsman" or a mountain biker?

Well lately, I've mostly been an electrician and a vacationer. I'll be a mountain biker on Saturday. I can't wait until Halloween. I think I'll be a pirate.

[dubjay]

Originally Posted by Von-Skipp

There currently 101 routes in Orange County. I believe 50 of them have NAV files. Not all of them are 100% accurate yet. If you go to a route on Geloadders, on the left side there is box with the NAV File and it has a rating of the accuracy with reviews.

The NAV files and Geo-Agent are in Beta form and free of charge. Soon this will change....

I don't think I have access to those areas. You need to be invited to the group

[Von-Skipp]

Originally Posted by dubjay

I don't think I have access to those areas. You need to be invited to the group

Click this link:
http://www.geoladders.com/view_all_navfiles.php

This is all the routes with NAV files. Routes with 8's or better are ok for riding blind.

I rode 'Tijeras Creek Loop' blind (first time on trail) yesterday. Its a 14 mile loop with lots of turns. We didnt get lost once. It would of been impossible to ride this route w/o the NAV file on the Edge.

[dubjay]

Originally Posted by Von-Skipp

Click this link:
http://www.geoladders.com/view_all_navfiles.php

This is all the routes with NAV files. Routes with 8's or better are ok for riding blind.

I rode 'Tijeras Creek Loop' blind (first time on trail) yesterday. Its a 14 mile loop with lots of turns. We didnt get lost once. It would of been impossible to ride this route w/o the NAV file on the Edge.

Wow - that looks great. I think it knows I'm not a member though. When I click on the download link - nothing happens