No helemt; no bike?

[Kid A]

Originally Posted by Rockinthecasbah

Why dont we make it illegal to do anything but sit in a box hiding from the world,

can mine at least be a bike box?

[Rockinthecasbah]

yeah you can draw a tv on one side and pretend

[autoduel]

Originally Posted by bikeadict

Where does it stop???

I'm 100% against laws that are written to protect ourselves from our own ignorance or hard headedness. If the kid (and his or her parents) are too stupid to not enforce wearing a helmet I say F'it let the kid become a vegetable.
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I agree when the responsible (or irresponsible party) takes responsibility for their actions. You can't ignore one law that results in injury and then rely on another to pay for your emergency medical services.

Ignore the restrictions and exploit the benefits. That's the american way.

[Pickettt]

Originally Posted by schleppp

I can hardly blame them on this one though. It seems absurd that they, and the policy holders, pay the cost of someones lack of common sense.

Isn't that the sole purpose of insurance? For US to pay for THEM. I've been driving for 20 years and have never been in an accident, much less caused one. so, where have all my premiums gone?

Originally Posted by uzziboy

do you relize that it is because of non insured people we have taxes raised. I agree with bikeaddict but i fu#kin refuse to pay any more taxes for people who are too stupid to take care of themselves or their kids

You refuse to pay any more taxes? Tell me how that goes.

[Solo]

Originally Posted by foofighter

be it through insurance or the state picks up the tab...we all end up indirectly paying for someone's misjudgement

You nailed it on the head. I generally disagree with creating new laws to protect us from ourselves, but this law protects us financially from the dumb ones who choose not to protect themselves.

Whether it's a large insurance claim, unpaid hospital bill, or they go on to become a dependent of the state, we all pay for it.

Not to mention, I believe most of us agree that it's a good idea to wear a helmet.

[guero]

[quote=Kid A;371010]
the gov't should make them rock these lids

[Rockinthecasbah]

so some people liked what they read in 1984 ? because all the cameras all over the cities scare the S##t out of me

[freekengo]

Best overall solution of all. Put a law in that states that EVERYONE is accountable for their own actions. If you get hurt, you better have a way to pay for the medical bill. No outside help. If you can't pay for it, you suffer the consequence of your own actions/risks. No more handouts/bailouts. It just might make people think of the consequence before taking action. How about that for a "CHANGE". It'll separate the classes of the have's and the have not's, but wealth is supposed to come with a few more benefits. Not a matter of importance, but a difference in ability. Humans may be created equal, but most do not realize their potentials equally.

[Draheim18]

Originally Posted by freekengo

Best overall solution of all. Put a law in that states that EVERYONE is accountable for their own actions. If you get hurt, you better have a way to pay for the medical bill. No outside help. If you can't pay for it, you suffer the consequence of your own actions/risks. No more handouts/bailouts. It just might make people think of the consequence before taking action. How about that for a "CHANGE". It'll separate the classes of the have's and the have not's, but wealth is supposed to come with a few more benefits. Not a matter of importance, but a difference in ability. Humans may be created equal, but most do not realize their potentials equally.

You nailed that one right on the head. I complete agree with you. Everyone should be responsible for their own actions.

[92se-r]

if the laws were different, i'd be against it. if ur a dumbass, you only hurt yourself so who cares. if ur dumb enough to not wear a helmet, you'll take yourself out and not further dilute the gene pool.

however, laws in this country protect the stupid so if some assclown rides around with no helmet and eats shit, if he has no insurance, guess who is footing his bill. so im all for this bill because i dont want to pay some medical bills for some uninsured person that decides his head is harder than asphalt.

[RacinJason]

Make those kids wear body suits.
All kids should be wrapped in bubble wrap w / kneck braces.
Kids spotted without the required equipment including training wheels should be arrested on the spot.

You can ride you bike with no pants on but you better be wearing a helmet.

No helmet hurt them no pants hurts me.

[singlespeedrider]

My son can not ride his bike or anything with wheels for a month for not wearing his helmet. Gave him several warnings and still continued to forget. Maybe after a month of walking every where he will remember.

[dingleberry]

It seems many of you feel that uninsured persons with head injuries incurred from bicycle related accidents are costing you a lot of money?

But it should be obvious that this is a very narrow group of people. If you included other injuries incurred while riding bicycles by the uninsured, you would have a much more broad group, though I suspect it would still be insignificant compared to the costs of the uninsured with: cancer, pregnancy, heart disease, problems associated with aging, etc.

The result of this law will not be a reduction of costs through taxes or otherwise.

I think the real issue here, and my only concern is that here is yet another law that removes a right instead of guaranteeing one. I like the government to maintain my freedom, not restrict it.

This isnt like legalized murder or robbery, its what we all did as kids.

[hbpedals]

I think it's a good idea. Although I am generally against laws to protects us from ourselves, sometimes there are just simple things that can drastically reduce injuries - like wearing seatbelts when driving and helmets when riding. Kids aren't smart enough to decide for themselves . .and some parents are dumber than most kids.

[RustyIron]

Originally Posted by drclark

Police plan to sieze bikes if you're not wearing a helmet.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

[kanga]

Originally Posted by RustyIron

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Good luck to the 15 year old invoking the fifth to get his bike back from a cop!

Better luck to the kid's attorney afterwards...

[jh4rt]

Originally Posted by foofighter

be it through insurance or the state picks up the tab...we all end up indirectly paying for someone's misjudgement

How about if we abolish the welfare state and its horrid philosophy? If we don't pay for them, they can, once again, be a proud owner of personal accountability. (Not that I have an opinion....)

Yah! [quote=guero;371085]

Originally Posted by Kid A

the gov't should make them rock these lids

[thephat]

helmets are good kids should use helmets.

When did lowering taxes become a reson to make a law about freedom and safety?

Making and enforcing stupid laws that don't help anyway costs this country a lot of tax money.