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By Jay Prasuhn

Feb. 12, 2008 -- In a group suit, professional triathletes Rebekah Keat and Mike Vine, and professional cyclist Amber Neben served Hammer Nutrition, LTD. with a lawsuit, alleging that the company’s Endurolyte supplement contained banned substances that resulted in positive doping test results.

The suit, arranged by California lawyer Howard Jacobs and served Monday, Feb. 12 in Orange County Superior Court, seeks financial reparations for potential lost income due to their individual suspensions, as well as lost sponsorship opportunities, after each athlete used Endurolytes, which allegedly contained trace elements of the steroid precursor norandrostenedione, a banned substance under WADA code. Jacobs sent a press release on the filing to Triathlete Tuesday.

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BFloFoxRider.

dude i just bought endurolytes... and i lost.. so the substances that are banned must not be performance enhancing.. not to mention i still felt like i was beginning to cramp, but it helped them never fully cramp up

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And It is so perfectly cropped.

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Waldo

And it's so strong it can't be schmutzed by a helmet, even after a 4 hour ride.

Soooo...where can I buy some of this stuff?

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allison

Odd, so no one else that used the products had a problem? Or they just weren't picked up by the tests?

Sounds like they should be suing their respective agencies for keeping them out, despite the CAS accepting it was due to Endurolytes.

I don't think of any of us have anything to worry about, though. I don't believe anyone on here probably has ever had a drug test for racing?

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Padre

Dang...I use hammer too. Those silly substances haven't made me any faster either!

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xhuskr

it grows hair!! I'll have to get some in Costco sized bulk!

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Wrecker

May be odd, and I'm the first to take the side of the athletes intentionally using banned substances, but I just don't seem Amber Neben as having taken any supplement intentionally. Nor do I think that her coach would stand for it.

She works her arse off training and has a lot of integrity--not to mention, the levels that were found wouldn't do much for the body anyway. If these atheletes WERE intentionally doping, they really suck at it.

Sounds more plausible that the "vendors" had somehow tainted the pills--anyone that's had to deal with vendors knows how they can accidentally cut a corner that leaves something subject to negative effects. Just look at toys made in China, if you really need an example.

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reflux

If I'm a minor league pitcher and you tell me that I can sign a $6M deal if I inject, don't you dare stand between myself and the needle. What I'm trying to say is that public persona is just that, public. What goes on behind closed doors might surprise even the most grizzled of us.

Is anyone a lawyer or familiar with this are of the law? I'm curious as to what the athletes have to prove in order to win.

Rivet

But here's the thing, Amber doesn't make much as a pro cyclist, no pro women do. She has a BioChem PHd or something like that so she's not racing for the money, she's racing because she likes to compete. She could quite racing right now and go to work and probably make a hell of a lot more than she does on the bike.

RidetheRAAM4

It's not really about the money though. It's about being the best at what you do. Some people hate losing and will do anything they can do (cheating or whatever) to not lose. And........those with the good character are the worst! When they finally end up cheating to win, they will do anything in their power to blame someone else!

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SnookDawg

My read on this would be that the manufacturer of the supplement was also manufacturing 'roids. It would be extremely difficult to make 'roids and keep traces of that out of your other products. These are not FDA regulated products/facilities, so manufacturing processes are lax compared to someone making a therapeutic, like a big pharma company.

WADA, USADA, CAS all take the zero-tolerance stance so even if the "doping" is proven unintentional and not beneficial to performance, there will be no leniency, nice eh? US Cycling does squat to stand up for these riders and would rather sanction them than stand up to WADA or USADA.

I hope they win their lawsuit. If the FDA wasn't so f'ed up they'd step in and regulate the fiasco that the supplement industry has become, but as it stands now they'd rather stand by while consumers flush money down the toilet (best case) or get injured (worst case) - anyone remember Metabolife?

reflux

I understand what you're saying. In fact, that train of thought works for normal folks like you and me.

RidetheRAAM4 has a great point. Have you ever met a Type A lawyer? Litigation perhaps? For them, the joy is in the kill. Sometimes the only thing that drives them more than the joy of winning is the fear of losing. My minor league pitcher analogy was off-base; I apologize.

BrewMaster

Interesting case, but it is going to be tough to prove.

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jschwart73

Awesome!!! What if I down a gross of Endurolytes, will I get faster?

mp3

I have been tested...3 years ago at the 24 hour Nats. I passed:
http://www.warriorssociety.org/Racing/Report020.html

I don't use endurolytes anyway, they don't work for me.

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ocrider

ya endurolytes suck. Thermotabs r great though. I bet Pua used endurolytes since she was sponsered by Hammer and she passed.

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BrewMaster

I dunno Mario, I thought I saw you inject something into your leg right before your tore up Skully Ridge last weekend. If you hadn't been on a Niner, I would call you doper.

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