Hayes Strokers

[mottmcfly]

I gave a question.

I built my RFX using the Crossmax SX wheelset and went out on a limb and tried the Hayes Stroker brakes. Ever since, the back brakes sound like theres a tugboat trying to run me over.

When I say you can hear me braking for miles I am not exaggerating. If I ride within sight of the ocean, dolphins can be seen holding signs up reading "WTF".

Hayes reply? quote, unquote: "it's the acoustics of the wheelset." "it's just too stiff"

To some extent this is supported...changing the brakes to another Hayes variety resulted in the same noise.

Note: the front has never make a sound.

Changing the Wheelset but keeping the same brakes resulted in quiet as well.

The bike shop even went as far as to torch the back brake pads to try and quiet things down. Much to their credit (Incycle) they would love to have believed Hayes but the fact remains that the front is silent.

Has anyone either experienced this or heard of this before? Incycle is calling Mavic to see what they say but I cannot be the only person that bought this wheelset.

Thanks, I really appreciate any info or comments.

Mott

[Mudman]

Sorry I can't help, but I'd like to know as well! that just seems so weird! Good thing I stick with Avid.

[autoduel]

Have you tried a different rotor? I think the hope 2 piece might change the resonance frequency. Or maybe tennis vibration dampeners in the spokes?
Good thing I stick with custom wheelsets.

[dubjay]

Have you tried facing the rear brake tabs? Perhaps they're a little bit off, causing the pads to grab at an angle versus straight on.

[BrewMaster]

I have Strokers on my bike and they are pretty much silent. I have a crappy, no name OEM wheel set on my bike.

[DeeZee]

so far........

Also you may want to try aftermarket pads

[Red Hot Sloth]

I agree with dubjay.
What size rotor is it? 6" or 8". I had this issue with an 8" rotor, when I dropped down to 6" the noise wnt away. I'm a heavyweight, and like to get on the brakes last minute, and still don't need to use an 8" rotor at the rear, most of the braking forces are up front...just an idea if your doing 8" back there.

Originally Posted by dubjay

Have you tried facing the rear brake tabs? Perhaps they're a little bit off, causing the pads to grab at an angle versus straight on.

[mottmcfly]

Originally Posted by Red Hot Sloth

I agree with dubjay.
What size rotor is it? 6" or 8". I had this issue with an 8" rotor, when I dropped down to 6" the noise wnt away. I'm a heavyweight, and like to get on the brakes last minute, and still don't need to use an 8" rotor at the rear, most of the braking forces are up front...just an idea if your doing 8" back there.

It's an 8". I did have the pads refaced but I think you might be right about going to a 6" rotor.

[dstepper]

I have run into that problem a number of times with a number of different brakes from different manufactures. You just need to keep changing rotors, pads and playing with them to get the right combo. I know it is a pain and changing brakes may or may not help. I have even gone as far as putting Permatex Disc Quiet between the pads/calipers and on all the brake mounting surfaces...did not help.

I wish someone would make a anti vibration brake mount and mounting bolts out of nylon or something that would not let the vibrations get to the wheel.

Dean

[biglimey]

I run a similar compound to the permatex stuff (basically a super high temp silicone compound) purely so that the pad/piston interface is quiet.

I had to face the tabs on the back of my long travel bike because of a similar issue, made the occilation and pad grabbing go away...

[PacMan]

I have Mavic Crossmax SX's with Shimano Deore hydros on my Yeti 575 and have no issues whatsoever. Don't know if that helps, but there ya go.

[biglimey]

Originally Posted by PacMan

I have Mavic Crossmax SX's with Shimano Deore hydros on my Yeti 575 and have no issues whatsoever. Don't know if that helps, but there ya go.

For a cheap(ish) brake the Deores kick ass... simple set up, reliable. Stick a big rotor and metal pads in there and you've got a winning combo!

[PacMan]

Originally Posted by biglimey

For a cheap(ish) brake the Deores kick ass... simple set up, reliable. Stick a big rotor and metal pads in there and you've got a winning combo!

Couldn't agree more. I have 2 sets of Deores and they are just as good as anything else I have tried (Hayes Mags and 9's, Avid Juicy 7's, Shimano XT's). I run an 8" rotor up front and couldn't ask for more stopping power.

[gil_caz]

all my hayes brakes ive ever owned (2) have been loud, my shimanos were quiet for a very long time, then i bent stuff and it didnt sound so good.

i just bought some formulas, (borat voice) VERY NIIICE!!!

[biglimey]

Originally Posted by PacMan

Couldn't agree more. I have 2 sets of Deores and they are just as good as anything else I have tried (Hayes Mags and 9's, Avid Juicy 7's, Shimano XT's). I run an 8" rotor up front and couldn't ask for more stopping power.

Probably the best brake i've run in a while is the new XT's with the servo wave levers...7" front 6" rear, and they'll haul my 250lbs of lard to a stop!