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jackal525
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Default single speed hard tails

ok im sure that some one has written about this already and i hate to be a newb and bring it up again.

but what is the appeal of a single speed hard tail

it seems like they are the new thing

pros and cons anyone
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dstepper
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Default Every time you guys ask I post this

It was not writen by me...maybe we should have this in the FAQ section.

If you put a singlespeeder and a gearie in the same room, there seems to be a lot of controversy over whether technology is good, or even necessary, for the MTB lifestyle. I use the term lifestyle rather than sport because I believe as a whole we ride a two-wheeler in the dirt to satisfy our passion and inevitably it becomes a lifestyle.

There’s that word again: passion. It’s probably one of the most overused words in the mountain biking rags, besides aplomb, plush or railed. Passion shouldn’t be mistaken for desire, need, want or crave. Those are terms best applied to our incessant accumulation of more bike parts. Passion is a pure emotion devoid of materialism. Passion is the internal force that drives you to be better. It lurks in the recesses of your mind and beckons you to drift off into daydreams when you should be working.

Remembering back to the day when I first lost myself while riding my bike, I had stopped worrying about my job, deadlines, and bills. I don’t mean that I physically became lost and couldn’t find my way back; time actually stopped for those few hours while I was negotiating tight singletrack. Everything that wasn’t physically before me ceased to exist. This marked the beginning of my obsession. I had become addicted to turning the cranks, pulling the bars, driving my legs, expanding my lungs, leaning the frame, and following the trail to the unknown.

Still missing that enigmatic element, I entered the race arena to test my mettle. The adrenaline rush of gravity racing was like being chilled to the bone on a hot summer day. Muscles twitching, every synapse firing, teeth grinding through my mouth guard, eyes focused 100 feet ahead in a dead stare. As I waited for the final electronic chirp, it took everything in my power to resist the urge to prematurely lunge out of the gatehouse in a desperate sprint for the finish line.

It didn’t matter how well I prepared. At every race, the spectators waiting at the finish line bore witness to a 175-pound tuna in protective body armor flop to the ground, frantically struggle with a full face helmet while slowly dying as it gasped for its last breath.

A glutton for punishment, I entered the cross-country scene like a wide-eyed doe caught in the headlights of an oncoming semi truck. Waiting in the conga line anticipating the starting gun sent my intestines into overdrive. With all of the posturing and sizing up of our rivals, we acted like there was one sheep left and we were competing to be the lucky ram. But alas, to the onlookers we were akin to brightly colored salmon frantically flopping against each other as we set out to ascend the mountain.

A mountain has a way of punishing those who attempt to tame her. Altitude is her first line of defense. Wheezing gulps of air reluctantly filled my lungs as I tried to match pace with the stronger riders. Mistaking the lack of oxygen for euphoria, I pushed harder to reach the summit. My breathing became ragged as I started to lose control. I lurched on the pedals while I yanked on the bar ends in feeble attempts to generate more power.
Once I reached the top, I struggled to hang on to the grips as I attacked the descent through blurred vision. A thought came to me: Sea Monkeys. This is what it must be like for Sea Monkeys to race on mountain bikes, except they wouldn’t be gasping for air like a fish out of water. They’d be gasping for water like a human off of dry land.

After having ridden every trail in the surrounding area, I eventually set out for new destinations: alpine meadows, desert landscapes, high mesas, and forest glens. Each possessed its own unique personality and challenges. We navigated our hardtails on twisting singletrack, carved down rock-strewn fall lines on full suspension, and launched into the air on gravity sleds. All was good, but still something was amiss.

And then one day, just for the heck of it, a friend and I decided to build a single speed bike. He donated a used steel frame to the cause. Granted, it needed some welding to repair a broken brake post, but she still had some life in her. I pulled a hodgepodge of parts out of wooden crates in my garage: remnants from my past obsession with up-grade-itis. I toiled through the night with Phil Wood grease, Loctite and a torque wrench and emerged the next day with what appeared to be a bicycle. Not a twenty-something geared race machine, or a fully suspended ridge rocket. No, this was just simply a bicycle.

So I threw on some shorts and a T-shirt, grabbed my helmet and headed to the trail. By the time I reached the trailhead, I was giddy with excitement. I eagerly strapped the helmet on, threw a leg over the saddle and pedaled off down the trail expecting to uncover some hidden mystery about single speed bikes.

At first I was a little confused why anyone would find this kind of riding “enlightening”. I mean it’s not like I could snap it into a higher gear and blaze furiously down the trail, allowing a sophisticated suspension design to absorb every rocky obstacle in my path. I also couldn’t cleverly anticipate the next climb with just the right gear choice while trying to choose the right line through the maze of dry erosion ruts. Nope. All I could do was take on whatever Mother Earth threw at me. Just the bike and me.

Then slowly, without realizing it had happened, I stopped being aware of all of those physical interactions with the bike. For the first time, I began to sense the trail. Each tree made its own distinct sound as I silently passed by. I felt the slightest temperature change as I descended into one valley and then rose out of another. Momentum robbing trail features became invitations to leave terra firma and loft gracefully to the other side. When the trail turned skyward, I just stood up and climbed. To think about the climb, was an invitation to accept defeat. Instinctively, I harnessed the potential energy from the undulating terrain and used it to drive forward. There was no more thinking about what I should do next. I just flowed.

I have never felt more connected to the trail as I do when I ride my singlespeed. I admit, from time to time I still pay a visit to my other rigs in the hanger, but they just don’t hold the same mystery. They are a distraction from the trail, whereas my singlespeed is purely about the trail. And that is where the “enlightenment” begins.
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Appeal of the single speed or the hardtail?

In short.

Light, simple, and low maintenance. A back to basics momentum bike that teaches you different skills you wouldn't really think about using on a geared bike. Like attacking climbs out of the saddle, spinning high cadence, conserving speed and momentum.

There's something beautiful too about not worrying about shifting either. Like riding an old Bmx bike when you were a kid.

OR JUST READ WHAT STEPPIE wrote!
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i will say this riding my SS a handful of time has taught me to get my lazy butt out of the saddle and attack the climbs where I normally would rely on downshifting and spinning my way up.
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No Shifters No Chain Slap No worries... Do not get me wrong I enjoy my suspension bikes but the SS rigid hardtail just makes me smile on a trail like San Juan...
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backcountryeti
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Default Its like tattoos

SSing is painful, but an addictive kind of pain, the more you ride, the easier it gets, then you try to climb something harder, and it starts to hurt again. Its actually shocking to me what I can climb on a SS, and I'm still new to it, only around 3 weeks or so. Its a good time, do it, you wont reget it.
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I like it 'cause it's fun to hammer past a poor soul who's spinning his brains out on a climb. It's sickly satisfying to have them look at you with only one gear and YOU have the smile on your face.

Then again, I'm nuts....
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reflux
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Have you ever ridden your alpha trail backwards to try something new and perhaps make an old trail feel like new?

That is how I feel about SS'ing. Granted I have only taken the bike out a few times (4?), but I can tell you that each trail has to be ridden a little bit different to account for the fact that I'm riding with only 1FG.
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Reasons why I do it:

-Let's just say my last visit to the Doc was not a good one. It really works me out compared to my multispeed.
-I concentrate more on riding, balance, technique, enjoying the scenery, and enjoying the conversations with folks I ride with.
-Ease of maintenance.
-Cheap as heck to build since I had a ton of parts left.
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Less bother while riding. No shifting to worry about. I know what you're thinking: I never worry about shifting now. Trust me--you do. You notice it right away on your first SS ride.

It causes you to take on a more aggressive riding style--attacking hills, more active body position on DH's. This all translates over to the FS gearie and makes you an overall better rider.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dstepper View Post
It was not writen by me...maybe we should have this in the FAQ section.

If you put a singlespeeder and a gearie in the same room, there seems to be a lot of controversy over whether technology is good, or even necessary, for the MTB lifestyle. I use the term lifestyle rather than sport because I believe as a whole we ride a two-wheeler in the dirt to satisfy our passion and inevitably it becomes a lifestyle.

There’s that word again: passion. It’s probably one of the most overused words in the mountain biking rags, besides aplomb, plush or railed. Passion shouldn’t be mistaken for desire, need, want or crave. Those are terms best applied to our incessant accumulation of more bike parts. Passion is a pure emotion devoid of materialism. Passion is the internal force that drives you to be better. It lurks in the recesses of your mind and beckons you to drift off into daydreams when you should be working.

Remembering back to the day when I first lost myself while riding my bike, I had stopped worrying about my job, deadlines, and bills. I don’t mean that I physically became lost and couldn’t find my way back; time actually stopped for those few hours while I was negotiating tight singletrack. Everything that wasn’t physically before me ceased to exist. This marked the beginning of my obsession. I had become addicted to turning the cranks, pulling the bars, driving my legs, expanding my lungs, leaning the frame, and following the trail to the unknown.

Still missing that enigmatic element, I entered the race arena to test my mettle. The adrenaline rush of gravity racing was like being chilled to the bone on a hot summer day. Muscles twitching, every synapse firing, teeth grinding through my mouth guard, eyes focused 100 feet ahead in a dead stare. As I waited for the final electronic chirp, it took everything in my power to resist the urge to prematurely lunge out of the gatehouse in a desperate sprint for the finish line.

It didn’t matter how well I prepared. At every race, the spectators waiting at the finish line bore witness to a 175-pound tuna in protective body armor flop to the ground, frantically struggle with a full face helmet while slowly dying as it gasped for its last breath.

A glutton for punishment, I entered the cross-country scene like a wide-eyed doe caught in the headlights of an oncoming semi truck. Waiting in the conga line anticipating the starting gun sent my intestines into overdrive. With all of the posturing and sizing up of our rivals, we acted like there was one sheep left and we were competing to be the lucky ram. But alas, to the onlookers we were akin to brightly colored salmon frantically flopping against each other as we set out to ascend the mountain.

A mountain has a way of punishing those who attempt to tame her. Altitude is her first line of defense. Wheezing gulps of air reluctantly filled my lungs as I tried to match pace with the stronger riders. Mistaking the lack of oxygen for euphoria, I pushed harder to reach the summit. My breathing became ragged as I started to lose control. I lurched on the pedals while I yanked on the bar ends in feeble attempts to generate more power.
Once I reached the top, I struggled to hang on to the grips as I attacked the descent through blurred vision. A thought came to me: Sea Monkeys. This is what it must be like for Sea Monkeys to race on mountain bikes, except they wouldn’t be gasping for air like a fish out of water. They’d be gasping for water like a human off of dry land.

After having ridden every trail in the surrounding area, I eventually set out for new destinations: alpine meadows, desert landscapes, high mesas, and forest glens. Each possessed its own unique personality and challenges. We navigated our hardtails on twisting singletrack, carved down rock-strewn fall lines on full suspension, and launched into the air on gravity sleds. All was good, but still something was amiss.

And then one day, just for the heck of it, a friend and I decided to build a single speed bike. He donated a used steel frame to the cause. Granted, it needed some welding to repair a broken brake post, but she still had some life in her. I pulled a hodgepodge of parts out of wooden crates in my garage: remnants from my past obsession with up-grade-itis. I toiled through the night with Phil Wood grease, Loctite and a torque wrench and emerged the next day with what appeared to be a bicycle. Not a twenty-something geared race machine, or a fully suspended ridge rocket. No, this was just simply a bicycle.

So I threw on some shorts and a T-shirt, grabbed my helmet and headed to the trail. By the time I reached the trailhead, I was giddy with excitement. I eagerly strapped the helmet on, threw a leg over the saddle and pedaled off down the trail expecting to uncover some hidden mystery about single speed bikes.

At first I was a little confused why anyone would find this kind of riding “enlightening”. I mean it’s not like I could snap it into a higher gear and blaze furiously down the trail, allowing a sophisticated suspension design to absorb every rocky obstacle in my path. I also couldn’t cleverly anticipate the next climb with just the right gear choice while trying to choose the right line through the maze of dry erosion ruts. Nope. All I could do was take on whatever Mother Earth threw at me. Just the bike and me.

Then slowly, without realizing it had happened, I stopped being aware of all of those physical interactions with the bike. For the first time, I began to sense the trail. Each tree made its own distinct sound as I silently passed by. I felt the slightest temperature change as I descended into one valley and then rose out of another. Momentum robbing trail features became invitations to leave terra firma and loft gracefully to the other side. When the trail turned skyward, I just stood up and climbed. To think about the climb, was an invitation to accept defeat. Instinctively, I harnessed the potential energy from the undulating terrain and used it to drive forward. There was no more thinking about what I should do next. I just flowed.

I have never felt more connected to the trail as I do when I ride my singlespeed. I admit, from time to time I still pay a visit to my other rigs in the hanger, but they just don’t hold the same mystery. They are a distraction from the trail, whereas my singlespeed is purely about the trail. And that is where the “enlightenment” begins.
I need the crib notes to this, with my ADHD I only made it to the second paragraph.
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I went SS because of jealousy.
I saw how Foo was suffering at Aliso and thought, damn, I gotta get me some of that mojo.

It was also the cheapest way for me to lose 2lbs of the bike.
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I went SS because of jealousy.
I saw how Foo was suffering at Aliso and thought, damn, I gotta get me some of that mojo.

It was also the cheapest way for me to lose 2lbs of the bike.
steve you need to change your title from "sandbagger" to RABBIT!!!
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It forces you to get out of the saddle and really focus on riding hard even on the downhill sections. It is an easy way to learn how rhythm works on a bike for me.

The other real reason..... one time FOO and I joined OMR and GENE for a tour of Aliso and they killed it on their SS's!! Ever since that day i wanted a single speed. I bet they even remember me picking their brains about it the whole time.
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its lighter than my fs geared bike and i can use it as an excuse for walking up the hill
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I sold everything with gears except for the road bike because of SS'ing. SS'ing makes you a better rider...No cheating. Apply your knowledge learned from SS'ing to full suspension and gears and I guarantee you will be a faster rider.

I can't remember the last time I rode a full suspension bike. Probably Downieville in June. Not that gears or suspension are bad... I just only have time for my SS. I like her. Verry Niiice.
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I'm one email away from selling my only geared suspension bike, I just like the rigid SS the best.
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OMR
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Talking An old rider's thoughts on SSing....

I'm always tickled when this subject comes up... it has, it does and it will continue to... As so many have already said, it's a passion, that usually once tasted brings you back again and again. It's an alien concept: it hurts so much that it feels good ... why do I continue to do this? So many start out doing this to look cool, hey, everybody's doing ti... it must be cool. The first couple of rides they have mixed emotions about continuing to ride a single speed when a geared bike is much easiler... but many persevere and some even become jealots, selling off everything with gears and sometimes suspension too.

The bottom line here, grasshopper is to borrow someone's single speed for a couple of rides, if you can pry it out of their hands and see for yourself. Some will not like it, some will... you decide for yourself.
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