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Old 12-17-2007, 07:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Rigid fork on the SS--mixed feelings.

So I've only ridden the new carbon rigid fork twice, but I hated it every minute of those two rides. I couldn't get used to it and it basically ruined any fun I might have had. I liked how light it was and how hammering out of the saddle was more efficient, but the cons are out-weighing the pros so far.

Like I said, it's only been two rides, so maybe things will change. I will give it a go several more times and I'm trying to be positive and open minded about it.

Anyone else have a similar experience?? I'm curious to see how other people felt.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I feel the same way. I have a rigid fork on my SS and I'm not too fond of it. I had a SID on it, but I put it on a different bike, so I put on the rigid. It's not bad, but I prefer a little squish up front.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you think it's a 26er thing? Maybe running rigid on 29" isn't so bad???

Just wondering...
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm running rigid forks on my 29 SS and 26 SS. Really boils down to the type of terrain you're on, distance, and comfort level. I can go down just about the same trails suspended bikes go down, only a lot slower and have to be more careful about the lines I choose. Not ideal if you like going fast downhill, but I prefer the efficiency and lighter weight of a rigid fork on the climbs. My 29er is definitely smoother over all than my rigid 26 SS though.

Generally I don't ride more than 15 miles at a time and stick mostly to fireroad, XC type of riding so a suspended fork really doesn't benefit me all that much.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Do you think it's a 26er thing? Maybe running rigid on 29" isn't so bad???

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Old 12-17-2007, 08:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I rode a rigid fork on my SS for a couple years. My only real complaint was making turns on bumpy terrain. The bumps made it difficult to control the front, and I often felt like it was going to wash out (and it would have, if I would have pushed it any harder).

As Mechman mentioned, rigid forks are usually only desired by a small few...and Steppie (he's not so small).
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If god had wanted us to ride rigid, he wouldn't have let us invent suspension. C'mon now, even Steppie uses suspension.

Not an option for me although I tried it about 5 years ago and less then 20 minutes into the ride I gave it up, just to much for these ol broken down wrists of mine.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Get a Reba... I like mine on my Niner.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I too tried to embrace the rigid SS thing a while back. The first couple rides I even convinced myself i was enjoying the whole minimalism dealio and getting back to basics--the good ol' days when i first started riding on my rigid GT. When my hands began to feel like the claws of an arthritic lobster, however, i knew we were a mismatch. Suspension, i'll never stray from you again.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think if you aren't into... you probably aren't gonna be into it.


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Old 12-17-2007, 08:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I actually enjoy riding my cheap murray(I could be wrong, some lady left it in her apartment years ago and it was given to me) hardtail. I would use it much more if it wasn't so small and clunky. I dont feel like Im "one with the trail" like some say about it, but knowing what your bike is going to do no mattter what is kinda cool.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If I only had one bike, it would not have a rigid fork. But I don't just have one bike. I like keeping my bikes as diferent from each other as I can. My SS will remain rigid to keep it as light as posible. The only time I really dislike rigid is on fast fireroads decents...I have to slow way down or get punished.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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After a couple years on a pretty squishy dual suspension, I just built up a light geared hardtail with a REBA (with its flick of a switch lock-out) and absolutely love it. But I especially love locking it out, standing up, and hammering up climbs and then opening it up for the downhills. But I definitely noticed, and did not appreciate, when I forgot to flip it open on a downhill.

The takeaway is that I don't think the weight penalty of running a good, light suspension fork with lockout is so much it makes running fully rigid a better approach. Afterall, if you're not racing, why would you sacrifice some safety and plushness for saving a couple pounds of weight.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I actually enjoy riding my cheap murray(I could be wrong, some lady left it in her apartment years ago and it was given to me) hardtail. I would use it much more if it wasn't so small and clunky. I dont feel like Im "one with the trail" like some say about it, but knowing what your bike is going to do no mattter what is kinda cool.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:53 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i was talking to neil about his experience w/ that schwinn retro SS that he built. he said that having the Mary bars w/ the swept bars really helped with his wrist and comfort because he didnt feel tired due to what he thinks is the wrist positioning.

I'll take his word on it because i like a little squish up front
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Doug, I would stick to the rigid a little while before giving up on it. Riding rigid will teach you to ride a bike loose, you will learn to not hold the bars tight and relax and let the bike do its job. I like the solid feel of a rigid bike, feeling all the bumbs and rocks on the trail. I ride most of the same stuff I ride my suspension bike on I just go alot slower and pick my lines better. Then there are some trail that are just better on a rigid SS, most of the ones I like are in Arizona but the local one I think is made for SSing and rigid is SART.


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Old 12-18-2007, 04:22 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Didn't catch it but is a 26" or 29er? 29er is better. Steel frame is better yet. I've been riding rigid for the last year. I'm currently out on the East Coast and it is very rocky and tons of tree roots. You have to build up to it. You have to get your shoulders, arms and knees used to the jarring. I ride mine in all kinds of terrain and I acutally like it better in super techincal pick your line rocky stuff. It's perdictable and it's super stiff and responsive.
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:48 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Do you think it's a 26er thing? Maybe running rigid on 29" isn't so bad???

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I'm sure it's not as bad on a 29er.

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