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11-20-2007, 12:45 PM
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The biggest problem with reviews of any kind of product or service--especially those posted online--is that criticism is often louder than praise. When people like stuff, they don't usually go out of their way to give good reviews on things. It's bad reviews that people tend to go the extra mile to post. This is probably less so with bikes, but I think this is especially the case with restaurant reviews and other services.
I even noticed this when I was researching what type of knee surgery to go for years back. For every one person who complained about poor results from, say, a hamstring tendon graft, there are probably 50 people who had it done with success and aren't on some online forum complaining about it because they're happy so they've moved on. |
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11-20-2007, 12:59 PM
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What up yo Ma Ma ?
Well we will take orders in groups of 10 then make the batch stamp them and send them off for powder coating.
The order when confirmed gets your info stamped on the bb and the color of your choice and will be hand made one of a kind. The welding of the rear end and the sub frame takes about 2 weeks the the powder coating takes 2-3 weeks. If you are buying a complete bike we also will offer a loaner bike if you are bike less. We don't want you to get all out of shape while waiting for your custom Chumba. All custom sale are on a case by case arrangement to insure you are getting everything your riding requires. Quote:
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11-20-2007, 01:05 PM
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I agree.
The people that are happy are out riding and getting on with there lives. The one that are angry are looking for someone to take the blame. Complaining is the only form of release they have.
I noticed while reading the forum back when I was sick and injured the guys doing the complaining are online all day all week and never ride anyways. Its the trolls on the internet that make shopping difficult at times. I study bike builds as to find the perfect component Spec for our bikes. I see a lot of trolls and learn to see through them. Quote:
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11-20-2007, 01:42 PM
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ali'i hua
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so, are you going to answer questions to myself and Chocula about this rumored ferrous big wheeled machine?  or just play 'possum?
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11-20-2007, 01:46 PM
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wow I must say that is cool that I will get a loaner bike while my bike is being made!
 That really is cool Jason, stuff like this will set Chumba a step above other bike co.
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11-20-2007, 03:28 PM
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I'm ready to answer questions .
Send me PMs please
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11-20-2007, 03:45 PM
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I need a tow truck ASAP
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I had a chance to ride an Evo at the demo thing at Aliso recently. It was Jason's own bike and it was spec'd out pretty much how I would want it with coil shock and fork. The thing really impressed me in how it climbed. I think he said it weighed 35lbs and it felt more like 30-32 to me. I'm sure it probably has something to do with how far the pivot is forward of the BB. I didn't use any pro-pedal and it would barely bob only if I spun sloppily.
Then it came time to go down Rock-it. It felt OK on the studder bumps on the fast fireroad leading into the singletrack. Once I got to the rock garden though is when I was fairly dissapointed. Maybe I'm just spoiled with my RFX and its Push'd DHX coil but the Evo just felt like it only had about 4" of travel instead of 6". I know it could have been the rear shock set up, possibly spring rate but it felt like it had the right amount of sag and I don't think Jason weighs much more than me (170lbs). The rear suspension just felt overwhelmed the faster I went. Anyway, not bashing Chumba at all but I fell in love with the feel of Turners suspension the first time I rode one. I wasn't even going to try out a Chumba until I saw Jason's Evo (thanks again for letting me ride it, hope you threw that seatpost away).  Tons of bubbs on STR are buying them so you gotta be doing something right! BTW: My wife (Hallums) wants some kickbacks for coming up with "Chuba"  |
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11-20-2007, 03:46 PM
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 A big wheeled Chuba 
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11-20-2007, 04:13 PM
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I did not realize that you could see the dents in the Asphault from laying the bike dwn... Sick bike though I rode it around the parking lot and although small for me it felt solid...
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11-20-2007, 04:42 PM
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Yeah, It might have been to much spring.
My EVO was all prototype parts and was not meant to be used as a demo. I wasn't planning on doing the demo all day by myself as you will notice I was wearing full gear.
 I ended up working all day by myself. I never gave anyone permission to use my personal bike as a demo. The shock was set up for a 190-200 lb rider and it had pre load dialed into it. So you got to test out all of the prototype gear even before I did. Till this day I have not used the Seat post I took your word for it that it was not so great. I went over the tolerances and the new post will be sent to me soon. I just remember turning around and seeing some peddles on my bike and getting all pissed off about it. For a couple of reasons I have an agreement to not let people test the products till they have my approval for public use. If somthing would have happened to a demo rider while riding my bike with that company's parts on it. I would have had some problems. The other reason is people like to tweak on settings and that makes it hard to keep a log on what works and what does not work. It seems like my bikes new are the same after people borrow them.  Quote:
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11-20-2007, 04:58 PM
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I bet it was like a hard tail for you
It was even stiff for me. Its ok I think when you have a chance to ride a bike set up correctly you will be able to set the DH ride to match the climbing. As you might have heard the EVO is one of the best descending bikes in its class. Thats assuming you have the right shock and Fork on it.
Now I am testing the X Fusion H3 Prototype shock and it works great. It only needs a couple of small changes. The propeddle is like the RP23 and the shock has a lock out also . Nice. Let's just say Fox now has some competition on its hands. Quote:
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11-20-2007, 05:08 PM
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Here is the feedback from the proper set up .
[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Submitted by Justin Macknish a Racer from Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Date Reviewed: 6/2/2006 8:13:06 PM [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Duration Product Used:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Less than 1 month[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Price Paid:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]$1849[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Purchased At:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]www.lamacycles.com[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Strengths:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Cornering and pedaling power of a hardtail with six inches of plush plush plush rear air shock travel. Incredible construction and geometry.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Weaknesses:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Some might say the BB height is too low but I can’t agree with that. The stability and cornering capabilities this feature gives the EVO surpasses any low BB inconveniences one could find.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Similar Products Tried:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Chumba Racing F4, Intense M1, Intense M3, Oryx DHO 1 and 2, Turner DHR[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Bike Setup:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Chumba EVO Medium with fox DHX 5.0 air shock, Boxxer World Cup 2006, E-thirteen STS chain guide, Saint cranks, Maxxis DH minion tires[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Bottom Line:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]The Chumba EVO surpassed my expectations. Conceived as an all-mountain/freeride bike, this baby can most definitely handle hardcore downhill trails. The rocky terrain of Eastern Canada has given me a chance to test the limits of this new frame during the first two Canada Cups (Bromont, QC and Tremblant, QC). I must say it is a surprisingly agile bike that blows your mind away when time comes for cornering and pedaling. Basically, there is no pedal induced bobbing and it corners as if you were on a hardtail making it for an ever so quick bike around bends and on pedaling straits. The patent pending FCC technology was designed to channel suspension induced forces to the frame via the down tube. This results in a super plush 6 inch rear suspension that can handle some pretty gnarly scenery. I haven’t come across any obstacle on our Eastern downhill trails that have intimidated the EVO. I can only say WOW!! You must try one whether it’s for all-mountain, freeride or downhill riding. I don’t think I’m going back to a long travel downhill bike after this experience![/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Value Rating:  Overall Rating: #2[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Submitted by David Valero a Downhiller from Corona Date Reviewed: 6/6/2006 1:50:21 PM [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] FavoriteTrail:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Red Box[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Duration Product Used:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Less than 1 month[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Strengths:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]6” inches of plush travel on a bike that pedals like a Full Suspension XC rig! I say thats all the strenghts I need![/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Weaknesses:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]If you find one, let me know. You have my email address[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Similar Products Tried:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Intense M1, Chumba XCL, Mamba,F4, and Specialized Stump jumper[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Bike Setup:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Chumba EVO w/Fox 36 Fork, SRAM power train, Avid Juice brakes, Kenda tires,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Bottom Line:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]I took the Evo out for an excursion at Aliso Woods. Anyone who has ever ridden Aliso would tell you that in order to play, you have to pay. There are some crazzzy descents, but you have to climb in order to come down. I was a little skeptical if this rig could really climb, but I was quickly surprised at how the bike pedaled. I found myself just powering up the climbs. There was no bobbing effect, just the passing of a few guys, which had full suspension XC bike, on the way up. I felt as if I had a motor on the bike. It was truly an amazing sensation being able to climb on this bike. The fun was about to begin. When I started my descent down Rocket, a trail that is covered with rock, the EVO just started to tease me. I could feel it telling me to let go of the brakes and drop the HAMMER. I did just that. The EVO descended like a downhill Champ. It eat up everything insight. I picked a line down the middle and the bike never deviated from the path. It just felt so awesome! I thought to myself, “Finally, a bike that can climb just as fast, as going downhill”. The guys at Chumba really did it this time. This bike fills the gap that I was searching for. Look no further. Don’t waste your money on anything else. If you have to have just one bike, the EVO is it! [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Value Rating: Overall Rating: #3 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Submitted by Chris Messina a Cross Country Rider from SoCal Date Reviewed: 6/28/2006 11:08:34 AM [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Duration Product Used:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Less than 1 month[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Strengths:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]*Laterally, the stiffest bike I've ever ridden *Absorbs bumps like they weren't even there *Climbs almost as well as it descends!! *Unique look that sets it apart from other manufacturers[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Weaknesses:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]*Decals could use some work...I guess I'm nitpicking [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Similar Products Tried:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]Titus Moto Lite '06, Turner Flux '06, Stumpjumper FSR 100 '04, Giant NRS '04, Stumpjumper FSR '02.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Bike Setup:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]*Fox 36 TALUS fork*Fox DHX Air shock *SRAM drivetrain[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Bottom Line:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]In a nutshell, this bike floored me! As you can tell by the previous three bikes that I've been on for long periods of time in the past year, I pretty much lean towards the XC side of things so, when I got the opportunity to ride a 6+ inch travel "all mountain" (AM) machine that looked like it was built to take hits instead of climb hills I was expecting some really fun experiences on the descents and some haneous, pain filled climbing efforts going uphill; I was half right. On the DH's, this bike more than lived up to my expectations and, in fact, actually inspired enough confidence in me that I was willing to ride in ways that I've never ridden before. While I was already pretty good going DH, I was now gapping guys who I'd previously followed and launching hits that were previously to frightening for me to consider. Without droning on with too much detail, the suspension setup (Fox 36 TALUS fork & DHX Air shock) coupled with some incredibly strong bearings create a bike that's so laterally stiff that it just begs you to push your limits (I have a broken helmet to prove how far I pushed! ). Where the real surprise with this bike came in was in the climbs. As I said before, I expected this thing to be a tank going uphill and, on my first ride, I told my buddies (who are pretty fast climbers) that I'd probably be lagging that day because of the bike. Instead, after hammering up a couple of climbs I got this comment from my out of breath buddy: "I thought you said you were going to be slow today." Instead of the tank I thought it was going to be, the EVO was actually a superb climber. While it's not as efficient as my MotoLite or my Stumpy, it blew the Flux away! With the shock dialed in, this thing had very little - if any - pedal feedback while seated and could even withstand some out of the saddle hammering (although the fork would squish quite a bit here) without an exhorbitant amount of rear shock movement. Bottom line: This is one of the best bikes I've EVER ridden...period! While I don't own one yet, it is now at the top of my list for the "bigger bike" purchase I'm planning to make later this year (the Nomad and 6.6 were the previous front-runners). If you're considering an all mountain offering that can climb as well as most 4 to 5 inch bikes on the market then ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO PUT THE CHUMBA ON YOUR LIST. You would truly be doing yourself a disservice were you to not consider this bike...especially considering it retails for a couple hundred dollars less than either the 6.6 or the Nomad. 5 flaming poops for value because it's cheaper than the competition and 5 torched terds for overall because I can't think of a bike that I've had more fun on![/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1] Value Rating: Overall Rating: [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][/FONT]Quote:
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